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So apparently,
they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?
Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM
Because killing them physically is still killing them and that's super illegal. Brainwashing them isn't killing them (because as we see, they can be changed back to their old personality), but, again, it's still in that "really pretty bad" category.
But then again, how is brainwashing them and sticking them in an idyllic town any worse than, say, stinking them into an extradimensional prison and leaving them there?
edited 20th Feb '16 8:16:54 PM by alliterator
I believe Maria Hill is attempting to turn the supervillains in to productive members of society. I honestly don't think she gives a damn if they would rather die or whatever - in her mind, they probably forfeited the right to choose when they decided to become supervillains.
I'm not saying she's right, but saying that SHIELD should just kill them is misunderstanding the mindset behind the Pleasant Hills project.
Oh God! Natural light!
And, arguably, misunderstanding the entire concept of "justice."
She is not very nice, no.
Honestly, if she did indeed keep the Kobik project around, then she should probably get fired after this.
Oh God! Natural light!I'm not saying I think the villains should be killed, I'm just wondering about the mindset that thinks "ok we got all these villains what should we do? brainwash them into being normal people? got it" when killing them seems easier. I don't see brainwashing them to be justice either because you know brainwashing and all.
well I mean they have already crossed a lot of lines trying to warp reality unknown to anyone and then using it to brainwash people after it was stuck in a little girl. I was just wondering where the line was. I mean this is maria hill, the person who tried to arrest cap for refusing to enforce a law that hadnt passed yet.
Also how did Fixer get out of his infinite time loop paradox
edited 21st Feb '16 4:03:52 PM by Deadpoolrocks
Fixer: Presumably, with science. Or something. It's not really important. You can't keep a good villain down, even by locking them into a stable time loop.
Pleasant Hill: Yeah, no way would Carol Danvers ever support mind wipes and brainwashing. She has kind of a complicated history with that kind of thing.
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She also originally had her own precognitive flashes, though they rarely helped for prevention.
Ah, that's right.
You know, thinking about it, the conflict for Civil War II makes a hell of a lot more sense than Civil War I. I'll still not sure how it's going to go down, but Bendis has written these characters before - in Mighty Avengers, actually, I think he had Tony and Carol have a mutual crush on each other? Or Carol had a crush on him or something?
In any case, I think he did write them okay and his Invincible Iron Man is pretty good so far, so I'm feeling good about Civil War II.
This is late but I didn't have much of a chance to respond to this earlier and I really wanted to ever since I saw this question because it's a topic that interests me a lot.
When I began reading the earlier Spider-man comics, I was surprised to learn that Peter Parker originally aged so quickly. I agree with Stan Lee's assessment that it was important for him to grow up - I'm so glad that he never got stuck in high school, that would have been awful.
It's pretty funny to me that so many Marvel sources talk about how Marvel was a trailblazer for having their stories age instead of being stagnant... boy they must regret giving so much hype to that idea now that they've become a turtle timescale.
Anyway, I think the biggest thing would be how much time has passed? Because I'll admit I still want Peter around, even if I want him to be ageing. Real time just wouldn't work because I feel the monthly issues don't contain enough story to follow the character's growth and they'd age too fast relative to how much we got to see of them.
Anyway, I don't know for sure about the current main team rosters as it is, but I would think it'd be cool if things like the X-men or Avengers could slowly change to the point where members left permanently over time and they'd slowly transition into totally new status quos. Unless that is already the case, but I'm pretty sure that big names like Captain America and Wolverine tend to end up back on the teams when they're not dead or whatever.

That brainwashing is a horrible thing to do looks to be kinda the point of the story. I'm pretty sure we're not getting a pro-brainwashing story.
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