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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#71776: Jun 4th 2025 at 3:57:41 PM

The game might have a few Capcom Guest Fighters at least.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71777: Jun 4th 2025 at 6:38:54 PM

Talking about the Black Panther book again, I find it funny how funny how the context for Storm's death is "She died in the race war".

No explanation beyond that. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#71778: Jun 4th 2025 at 6:49:21 PM

Well, one happens every week on X-Books, so it's hard to keep track.

Wake me up at your own risk.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71779: Jun 4th 2025 at 6:49:54 PM

[up][up]Just like that.

Woman can drop a tornado your face. Did they just poison her while she was eating or something?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jun 4th 2025 at 6:50:40 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71780: Jun 4th 2025 at 6:51:50 PM

[up] Well despite her offensive power she still has the overall frailty of a regular human. So she can be taken down with something as simple as a bullet to the face.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71781: Jun 4th 2025 at 6:57:20 PM

True, but your're still flipping a big coin that said bullet will reach her before she lightning bolts/snowstorm/tornado/hurricanes/You get the damn point's you in the face.

Poison is safer. You just slip it into her dinner, walk away and wait for shit to go down.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71782: Jun 4th 2025 at 7:16:13 PM

Yes and like every X-Men Storm can be caught off guard, dogpiled, or overpowered as long as they get one good hit in. She's not invincible. Like a spellcaster she actually needs to cast her spells. She's not Photon or Captain Marvel where physical being is something beyond normal humanity.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CheapMarzipan A Low Cost Confection Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
A Low Cost Confection
#71783: Jun 4th 2025 at 7:29:29 PM

Speaking of The World to Come, we can officially say that Wakanda getting democracy was a bad thing, right?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71784: Jun 5th 2025 at 2:26:41 AM

[up] Democracy in Wakanda has been a bigger disaster than several real life countries who have trouble transitioning. It's fucking hilarious. [lol]

Honestly probably the most annoying thing about Ketema is how this is going to motivate people to go "see white Black Panther can be done after all."

Plus you know this kid is going to get an annoying ride or die fandom that is disproportionately sympathetic to him like John Walker fans.

I have no idea where John Walker stans even come from. I'm not even saying Walker is a terrible character, but he does not warrant this much attention.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 5th 2025 at 2:28:46 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#71785: Jun 5th 2025 at 2:43:42 AM

[up] I'm pretty sure there was a line in this week's issue that almost lampshades that, saying the transition to democracy was predictably disastrous.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#71786: Jun 5th 2025 at 3:17:41 AM

[up][up] At least in the comics, John Walker is awful and eminently hateable. Which is definitely part of his appeal. For the comic readers who like him, I suspect they just enjoy how much conflict he causes just by being around.

The show had him kill a dude, right? So no surprise that there were certain viewers who loved him.

As for a White Black Panther, if nothing else, people can now point to this comic whenever chuds bring up that argument in discussions of race-bending.

Edited by Tiamatty on Jun 5th 2025 at 6:18:58 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71787: Jun 5th 2025 at 3:20:25 AM

I wouldn't really say comics Walker is awful and hatable.

He threads the line between his admitted conservative values but he is generally portrayed as decent guy at heart if very flawed. He is more of a flawed asshole but who has the potential to be good.

I believe Willaim Burnside is the hatesink Cap.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 5th 2025 at 3:23:56 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#71788: Jun 5th 2025 at 3:41:43 AM

Walker's been across the board. As you say, a lot of the time he's a flawed but reasonable guy who happens to be small-c conservative and exists to show that not everyone is able to replace Steve Rogers.

But sometimes he's a straw man, an antihero or just a complete dick. And I'm not sure he's ever really had a fandom of his own, even when he was the Captain America false lead or in a miniseries.

(Is his old partner Battlestar still about?)

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 5th 2025 at 11:42:00 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71789: Jun 5th 2025 at 6:00:49 AM

With MCU Walker its sort of a weird thing cause it more got magnified due to Thunderbolts.

Honestly it handled his character better than the show because it makes him a more flawed person who suffers actual consequences for his behaviour unlike the end of the show.

Spoilers for the movie Walker is disgraced his reputation in ruins after his execution of the Flagsmasher. His obsession and depression over his failed rep drives away his wife and she leaves him, taking away their son. Walker as a result is a lonely sad man with nothing but he hides it with obnoxious bravado and machismo.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#71790: Jun 5th 2025 at 9:55:02 AM

Discourse around MCU Walker has a big problem with a lack of nuance. Yes, he killed a man who was surrendering, and that should not be in dispute. At the same time, the way his harshest critics talk about him, you'd think he did it while yelling "Heil, Hydra!".

Walker is neither a saint nor a monster, is my point.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#71791: Jun 5th 2025 at 10:05:31 AM

But sometimes he's a straw man, an antihero or just a complete dick. And I'm not sure he's ever really had a fandom of his own, even when he was the Captain America false lead or in a miniseries.

I was a fan of his but part of the characters appeal was being the designated asshole on the team when Hawkeye wasn't. In the team books, you always had archetypes and the loudmouth at least had a personality.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#71792: Jun 5th 2025 at 10:08:26 AM

[up] See also: Namor, Quicksilver. Yep.

Some characters grow beyond that, others just get mileage out of creating friction on the team.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 5th 2025 at 6:08:45 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71793: Jun 5th 2025 at 6:45:06 PM

The new issue is Immortal Thor is out and we find out how Thor meets his end.

It's Thor's last stand, holding back the entire horde of Utgard from invading all of creation. He battles the endless legion of the city, he battles the hooded God Mejed, and in the end he succeeds. He drives back the horde, he defeats Mejed, he stands victorious without dying. Thor Madd sure no one died, Skurge still lives, Heimdall is saved, and Sif arrives. The sight of her makes Thor realizes how much he truly loves her, how he wants to spend the rest of his life with her.

Annnnd Loki backstabs him with the Eternity arrow.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71794: Jun 5th 2025 at 6:50:52 PM

[up]

As first dub Vegeta once said, being a good villain is like being a photographer. you have to pick the right moment.

Or to put it in simpler terms, !@#$% YOU LOKI!!!

One Strip! One Strip!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#71795: Jun 5th 2025 at 6:54:49 PM

Honestly, not a huge surprise.

Loki was narrating this story. They made it clear for a while that it was going to lead up to Thor's death. And how exactly would they know it would end that way?

Because they were planning to kill him all along.

Edited by M84 on Jun 5th 2025 at 9:56:13 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71796: Jun 5th 2025 at 7:31:05 PM

Loki really needs to die, they are the definition of a ginormous pain in the ass.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#71797: Jun 5th 2025 at 7:44:05 PM

Not until we get the Marvel comics version of their most epic battle with Heimdall.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#71798: Jun 5th 2025 at 8:03:58 PM

That's So Loki

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#71799: Jun 5th 2025 at 8:18:30 PM

So the new Black Panther is white.

I assume there's deeper context here?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#71800: Jun 5th 2025 at 8:25:16 PM

[up] It's a bad future AU where T'Challa's apparent son who is a pawn by evil forced has challenged him for the right to the throne.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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