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This thread's for talking about the Marvel Comics line, whether the comics are decades old or brand new.

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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#51026: Jun 23rd 2021 at 10:19:29 PM

Wait what?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51027: Jun 23rd 2021 at 10:23:52 PM

You've created a time paradox, Magneto

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51028: Jun 23rd 2021 at 10:46:21 PM

Okay this is Deathstroke giving up the use of guns and swearing to kill only with martial arts after finding out that nightclub got gunned down levels of weird.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#51029: Jun 23rd 2021 at 11:10:28 PM

A petition has been made to stop Disney trademarking the names of Norse gods.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51030: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:08:46 AM

And Fantastic Four: Life Story #2 is out annnnnnnd Sue leaves Reed for Namor.

Ugh disgusting, dropped. First Grand Design, now Life Story, why does the Fantastic Four have bad luck following up on concept minis kickstarted by other series?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#51031: Jun 24th 2021 at 1:14:58 AM

[up]Sounds like a repeat of Spider-Man: Life Story when MJ left Peter and took the kids with her, and Peter ended up dating Jessica Jones for a while, but it all turned out well in the end, Peter eventually went back to MJ and his family, even if it took them ten years

Edited by Zarius on Jun 24th 2021 at 1:15:49 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#51032: Jun 24th 2021 at 2:52:30 AM

That Marvel Pride issue was . . . something. A couple of the stories were great. The Mystique/Destiny one was a highlight, the one about Prodigy's bi awakening, the Billy/Teddy vows. The She-Hulk one, while a bit of a cop-out, was really well-done, and the Black Cat/Jessie Drake one was pretty charming.

That said.

It says a lot about Marvel's trans rep that, of the three stories spotlighting trans characters, two don't have powers, and the third seems to just do her own thing. The She-Hulk story, much as I enjoyed it, created a random civilian who just idolizes She-Hulk. Then there's the opening history lesson by Prodigy, which briefly spotlights Sera as Angela's soulmate . . . despite Marvel having broken them up for no reason, and having since made it clear they couldn't care less about Sera and have no intention to use her.

The Iceman story is honestly kinda silly, and makes no real sense in continuity, but it was definitely very sweet and cute. The Charlene Mc Gowan one was mediocre, the Kyle/Northstar one kinda sucked, the Anole one kinda sucked (though I liked the Anole/Graymalkin friendship), the Karma one was OK but not great, and the Somnus one, as well, was just OK.

But yeah. On the whole, definitely could've been better, and it really highlights how pathetic Marvel's trans rep continues to be.

Edit: Also, that big final "Love Is Love" splash page? Featuring Carol and Rhodey very prominently, with Scott, Jean and Logan also very visible? Fucking seriously? Come on. Seriously, what the fuck is that?

Edited by Tiamatty on Jun 24th 2021 at 6:18:13 AM

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Elfive (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51033: Jun 24th 2021 at 4:29:26 AM

Gamma Flight also started with a big loud reminder that Charlene is trans, which honestly felt a bit awkward and shoehorned in, and then went "anyway, fuck that here's the return of Skaar".

Edited by Elfive on Jun 24th 2021 at 12:29:45 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#51034: Jun 24th 2021 at 6:16:47 AM

They could have used Koi Boi, an actual Trans Superhero who's made appearances in a bunch of stuff and appears in splash pages in this book, I feel that could have worked.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#51035: Jun 24th 2021 at 7:24:16 AM

Apparently, the Marvel Voices book also dedicated 11 pages to reprinting a Scott Lobdell story, which is also not a great look.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#51036: Jun 24th 2021 at 7:26:12 AM

Marvel really knows how to fall on their faces, don't they?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#51037: Jun 24th 2021 at 7:43:24 AM

[up]They’re really good at making everyone angry.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#51039: Jun 24th 2021 at 8:32:07 AM

[up] Admitted sexual harasser who is a controversial writer besides.

Edited by Aleistar on Jun 24th 2021 at 11:45:07 AM

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#51040: Jun 24th 2021 at 8:38:18 AM

Sina Grace has said previously Marvel has been lackluster in promoting their LGBT series, and I suppose this issue is proof of this.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#51041: Jun 24th 2021 at 11:51:42 AM

Not to point out the obvious but Sue actually did leave Reed for Namor for a time in canon.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#51042: Jun 24th 2021 at 11:56:35 AM

[up]They also briefly separated during the original Civil War.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51043: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:03:26 PM

In fairness, Reed was using Asimov science to justify arresting half of his friends

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#51044: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:07:28 PM

And that was also a plot point in the previous Spider-Man: Life Story, where a frustrated Peter (who had himself broken up with MJ) verbally castigates Reed and twists the knife by mentioning Sue leaving Reed for Namor, and gets bitch-slapped in return.

Edited by ClancyGardener on Jun 24th 2021 at 12:08:20 PM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#51045: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:08:44 PM

Sue really needs better suitors.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#51046: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:08:58 PM

Does FF Life Story share a continuity with the Spider-Man mini?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51047: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:18:27 PM

Iron Man got did so dirty in Spider Man Life Story that I’d like to see an Iron Man Life Story

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#51048: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:22:56 PM

Alright. Give me some examples of heroes fighting villains they don't usually fight.

It can be one on one, it can be team fights, whatever.

Acts of Vengeance examples will be kept to a minimum if possible.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jun 24th 2021 at 12:23:07 PM

One Strip! One Strip!
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#51049: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:37:21 PM

[up] In the Avengers story that introduced the Masters of Evil, the villains were each selected by Baron Zemo to combat their particular arch-nemesis — Radioactive Man for Thor, the Black Knight for Ant-Man and the Wasp, the Melter for Iron Man, and Zemo himself for Captain America.

In response the heroes caught the Masters off guard by switching opponents, with Thor fighting the Black Knight, Iron Man fighting the Radioactive Man, and Ant-Man and Wasp fighting the Melter. (Zemo still fought Cap, though.)

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#51050: Jun 24th 2021 at 12:57:44 PM

The first appearance of Rogue had her be part of a Brotherhood of Mutants team that nearly whupped the Avengers.

It's a story that's always struck with me because of how Destiny is used (not just vague prophecies of the future, actual pinpoint instructions) and because nowadays a lot of the Brotherhood are seen as low tier particularly in power vs a group like the Avengers, but they nearly pulled out a win.

Granted Rogue did most of the heavy lifting (she dropped Captain America, Thor, and Wonder Man by herself), and honestly I'm not sure her powers would even work like that anymore-. Plus, losing most of their heavy hitters made the rest of the Avengers have to rely on smarts, luck and teamwork.


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