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This thread's for talking about the Marvel Comics line, whether the comics are decades old or brand new.

As well as the superhero tales of the Marvel Universe, that also includes all the other things Marvel's done (Epic Comics, Icon Comics, Star Comics and all the rest), as well as the older stories by Atlas and Timely, the companies that later became Marvel.

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A thread for all the miscellaneous Marvel discussion that doesn't have its own thread.

So apparently, they're making a Black Panther movie. Let's hope Hudlin is kept as far away as possible. On a related note, anyone think that the whole 'Super Hero that is also a King/Ruler' is kind of ridiculous? I mean where do heroes like Aquaman and T'Challa find the time to both lead a nation and go gallavanting on the other side of the globe?

Edited by Mrph1 on Sep 1st 2024 at 8:36:28 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51001: Jun 23rd 2021 at 4:43:40 PM

Alright finally read Heroes Reborn Finale.

Well that was underwhelming. Good thing this event went by quick cause that was some lackluster pay-off.

I will say Zarda should have been beaten down more. She and Spectrum were the most obnoxiously vile of the Squadron and only the latter suffered a true breakdown. Especially notable in the lockup scene were while Blur and Spectrum are openly sobbing Zarda is fighting back with that same irritating smug grin she always has.

Though hilarious that Hyperion actually did think of Peter as a friend. That is so pathetically sad considering Peter despises him for killing Aunt May and even then Hyperion never gave him the time of day.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 23rd 2021 at 4:43:53 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#51002: Jun 23rd 2021 at 4:46:14 PM

TIL Chuck Dixon revealed that during his time writing The Punisher, his editor had a desk drawer full of rejected stories with the same premise: Frank Castle would accidentally kill an innocent person, feels guilt over it, and quits.

I believe that most of them also had Frank become a priest. It's funny because that is basically the premise of Hitman 2.

But I think the problem with the above is that it kind of lacks any resolution.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51003: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:00:51 PM

I will say its hilarious how Blade attempted a dig against Nighthawk's Batmaness with a line "Little rich kid like you only had one day, well all my days are bad days."

Only for Nighthawk to respond with the even better line "Blade the vampire hunter. Ya know why there are no more vampires left on Earth?" and he then proceeds to curb-stomp his ass.

Oh yeah Blade, all those bad days sure showed him. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51004: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:04:14 PM

He talked the talk but tripped on the walk

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51005: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:08:52 PM

Just another bad day for Blade.

But don't fret for him, all his days are bad!

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#51006: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:17:40 PM

That's what he gets for trying to ice skate uphill

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51007: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:23:52 PM

It makes narrative sense for Blade to get his ass beat too

Hyperion managed, despite being weakened by vibranium kryptonite, to also punch Thor to the horizon. And Hyperion and Nighthawk are established as ongoing threats, like some kind of dynamic terror two-o, when the rest of the squadron is imprisoned.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51008: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:26:09 PM

As always Superman and Batman are the last ones standing.

There is literally a page designed to showcase that regardless of how hard the Squadron get their asses beat, Hyperion and Nighthawk will always stand indomitable.

Its actually rather sweet in a way as despite their constant differences and conflicts like Civil War, Hyperion and Nighthawk admit to each other that they truly are the World's Greatest Duo indeed.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:28:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#51009: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:28:44 PM

Apeaking of which I expect things to go one or two ways.

  • They become the start of a new Squadron Sinister
  • and/or they become the Marvel equvalent of the Batman Who Laughs and a Dark Multiverse!Superman, making their group the analogue to the Dark Knights

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51010: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:34:09 PM

And weird fingers on his face like that abomination suit had.

I think Fortean is controlling Skaar's body and the new Gamma mutate is Fortean's daughter.

Edited by Cortez on Jun 23rd 2021 at 8:34:24 AM

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#51011: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:36:49 PM

Also I like that Doctor Spectrum is the only one who suffers a true Humiliation Conga because he was the vilest of the 5. Power Princess and Nighthawk pretty much stayed true to form while Hyperion and Blur was treated more tragically.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#51012: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:40:28 PM

I’m admittedly a bit surprised they weren’t harder on Nighthawk and Power Princess.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#51013: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:08:59 PM

Zarda was a Blood Knight through and through so I don't think there was much that was going to shake her. And Nighthawk is just nuts. I think the fact that he's on his own trying to reclaim a reality that was never real is more sad than anything else.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#51014: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:13:33 PM

I don't see Ewing re-using a villain like that so soon after killing him off. It's been less than two years, after all. Whoever is behind Skaar is probably someone different, though knowing Ewing I wouldn't be surprised if it's an obscure Marvel character.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51015: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:14:51 PM

Granted Zarda was also defined her immeasurable narcissism and ego. All her life she basically lived with her head in her ass, thinking shes the greatest thing since sliced bread and killing everything she ever fought in curb-stomps every time.

She strikes me as someone who only enjoys combat if shes winning. When she starts losing she'll then again "What I demand I rematch! You cheated, no one can beat me! I am a fucking God and you should all worship me!"

Which I think is a bit of a wasted moment. Not emphasizing that the Squadron is actually struggling and panicking to varying degrees to the fact they are actually getting beaten.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
StrixObscuro from Somewhere in Massachusetts Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#51016: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:16:05 PM

For those who have read it, how was the Marvel Pride special?

The people I've talked to who've read it say that it's underwhelming, that many of the stories involve an LGBT character having to deal with bigotry, and that Daken is given a baffling amount of focus considering that he's kind of terrible as a representative of the LGBT community.

By now, it should be clear to all except the most dense of us that sheep are secretly conspiring to kill us all and steal our pants.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#51017: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:32:37 PM

Dakens problem is that he's a horrible stereotype but at least entertaining.

I mean...Northstar is boring as fuck.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51018: Jun 23rd 2021 at 6:33:07 PM

Oh right DC also did a Pride Special last week.

How was that by comparison?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51019: Jun 23rd 2021 at 7:02:18 PM

I also notice that Hyperion and Nighthawk were the two squad peeps to have a backstory event explaining why they were dicks. A cynicism catalyst or whatever

The brooding of the Imperial Guard for Hyperion and the death of Falcon for Nighthawk.

Zarda and Doc Spectrum were just kinda awful for their whole lives. And Blur was the token not as much of a jerk and even he gets his irreverent attitude maybe explained by having One More Hell To Pay in his backstory.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51020: Jun 23rd 2021 at 7:15:11 PM

[up]x6

Technically speaking Fortean would still be dead, they'd be using the green door to use Skaar's body.

On the topic of the Squadron, is the Hyperion that's part of the current team supposed to be Hickman's Hyperion?

Edited by Cortez on Jun 23rd 2021 at 10:17:48 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#51021: Jun 23rd 2021 at 7:53:53 PM

Still, I don't think Ewing would use him as the bad guy twice so soon, resurrection or not.

As for the Squadron, this version are all new ones, essentially constructs made by Mephisto.

StrixObscuro from Somewhere in Massachusetts Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#51022: Jun 23rd 2021 at 7:55:04 PM

Oh right DC also did a Pride Special last week.

How was that by comparison?

A lot of people seemed to like that one, because it included actual fan-favorites like Renee Montoya and Nia Nal. It probably helps that Nia got her own story, and she's one of the few prominent trans characters in comics. By contrast, Marvel chose to represent the trans community with a She-Hulk fangirl and an obscure character few people have heard of.

By now, it should be clear to all except the most dense of us that sheep are secretly conspiring to kill us all and steal our pants.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51023: Jun 23rd 2021 at 7:55:08 PM

They don't got no belly buttons

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51024: Jun 23rd 2021 at 8:12:44 PM

[up][up] Okay than yeah DC did it better.

Their book starred actually major characters and not nobodies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#51025: Jun 23rd 2021 at 9:24:22 PM

The highest profile one in this special was probably Iceman, who got a story where Silver Age Magneto pauses trying to murder everyone to comfort Bobby over being closeted, which is something.

Edited by Joshbones on Jun 23rd 2021 at 9:24:37 AM


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