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Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 6th 2021 at 6:48:16 PM

We can pin most of Spider Manís bad reputation on Jonahís one man crusade though

Because back in silver age silver days heroes were constantly getting off the hook for stuff done while hypnotized or by imposters

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 6th 2021 at 9:49:01 AM

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Apr 6th 2021 at 6:53:04 PM

And of course Iron Man is moonlighting as Tony's bodyguard, and it still makes no sense.

The magical tunneling hedge-clippers issue is hilarious for many reasons besides the hedge-clippers, and also the non-threatening nukes. Tony gets taken to an underground kingdom that intends to invade the surface world (and no, the Mole Man isn't involved; this is a different underground kingdom) and they want him to make weapons for them. After Tony declaring how Iron Man will stop them — and several panels of Tony going at length about how powerful, awesome and cool Iron Man is and is probably totally a handsome guy, too — they lock him in a room, where Tony builds a new suit and comes busting out, saying, "I tunneled down to where Tony was and got him to safety, I'm definitely not Tony himself!"

Literally everyone buys this without question, because apparently everyone in the '60s was kinda stupid.

Apr 6th 2021 at 6:53:18 PM

it probably didnt help that peters interactions with other superheroes was him breaking in and demanding to be paid

Apr 6th 2021 at 6:55:10 PM

[up][up] Was that the one with Kala, Queen of the Netherworld?

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Apr 6th 2021 at 6:58:54 PM

Villains would brainwash and/or impersonate heroes all the time back in the silver age.

Civilians and cops were usually terribly shocked at first (so they could appear on the cover going "how could Captain America do this?!) And then got over it very quickly.

Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 6th 2021 at 7:00:47 PM

It helped that you didnít have people being graphically ripped in half and cities melted off the face of the earth

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Apr 6th 2021 at 7:01:10 PM

[up][up][up] That's the one. If I recall right, the issue ends with the queen giving up her dreams of conquest when she realizes the surface's atmosphere ages her kind. Instead, she settles down with a nice man who earlier stated that he doesn't like being ruled by a woman. The end.

Edit: @Bocaj; I have been reading your blog on the Avengers, by the by. It's pretty entertaining read, but I do have one correction (apologies if you already learned this in the — checks — six years since you posted this);

Rick Jones is melancholic though. Cap is great and Rick can tell he wants to make Rick his partner but the Hulk is still out there somewhere and what will he do when he finds the Avengers replaced him?

-dramatic sting- World War Hulk.

Oh wait. No. He does nothing. Because he doesnít give a crap about the Avengers.

Incorrect. Turns out he does care about the Avengers. He cares so much, in fact, that when he learns that he's been replaced with Cap, he immediately sets off to murder them all.

It just happened in an FF/Avengers crossover, and not in the actual Avengers book.

Edited by drac0blade on Apr 6th 2021 at 7:36:19 AM

HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Apr 6th 2021 at 7:54:06 PM

That makes sense. Like, when is Hulk not emotional about things?

His whole thing is being too emotional (with that emotion mostly being anger).

Of course he'd care.

Read this post for my first theory, and this post for my second one.
Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:08:25 PM

I did learn that after the fact but since I was just doing the issues in the olde essentials volumes at the time I never went back to it

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M84 So many orphans. from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
So many orphans.
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:38:41 PM

Hulk doesn't give a crap about the Avengers but he gives a crap about Rick. So the moment he thinks Cap has become Rick's new besty, Hulk decides that the reasonable course of action is to kill all the Avengers.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder King Shark is a Shark
King Shark is a Shark
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:39:49 PM

That makes sense.

"It's been an honor to fight by your side."
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:44:21 PM

Right. I know it's a joke about how the Avengers have kinda treated Hulk like shit....but since his first instinct upon finding out Rick is hanging out with them is Murder Death Kill, maybe....just maybe they're more justified in not always being good to him.

Like, when you try to kill someone, it harms your credibility just a little.

Read this post for my first theory, and this post for my second one.
M84 So many orphans. from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
So many orphans.
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:46:01 PM

It doesn't justify launching him into space or anything, but the Hulk has done enough legitimately bad shit to warrant some scrutiny.

Although really, the Avengers do tend to be pretty forgiving of people they know trying to kill them, all things considered. They forgave Hank for the murder robot thing even though it came damn close to killing them all (they gave him more shit for hitting Jan). They also forgave Wanda for the whole Disassembled thing (Clint was less forgiving since she actually succeeded in killing him — but he got over it after having sex with a Wanda Doombot).

Edited by M84 on Apr 6th 2021 at 11:49:33 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Apr 6th 2021 at 8:58:12 PM

The problem with Planet Hulk was only the subterfuge. They pointed this out in Immortal Hulk, that getting shifted off to a paradise for multiple deaths is not really a punishment most people get.

Apr 6th 2021 at 9:00:20 PM

I'm reminded of Mighty Avengers when Hank asks Loki if he wants to join up with them, reasoning they've had criminals in their ranks before, and those guys went on to be great heroes in their own right. Everyone thinks he's insane, including Loki, but seeing the Avenger's history of forgiving people for much less reason — "You're a swell guy, Namor, even if you are trying to annihilate us for no adequately explored reason!" — it makes sense.

slimcoder King Shark is a Shark
King Shark is a Shark
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:00:21 PM

Itís not even really a punishment since the Hulk isnít necessarily a bad person and has been constantly chased by bad people all the time.

"It's been an honor to fight by your side."
M84 So many orphans. from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
So many orphans.
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:00:22 PM

TBF, the planet was pretty shitty when Hulk landed on it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder King Shark is a Shark
King Shark is a Shark
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:02:31 PM

Didn't he land on the wrong planet?

"It's been an honor to fight by your side."
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:05:08 PM

[up][up] That's because it was the wrong planet. He was originally sent to a place full of life but with no sentient beings to bother, but he broke the ship in his rage and ended up on Skaar.

edit:[nja]'d

...all things considered, Skaar might have been best for him. Plenty to smash.

Edited by drac0blade on Apr 6th 2021 at 9:05:55 AM

HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:07:53 PM

He did.

Because they lied to him, he went apeshit, damaged the ship, and threw off the navigation systems.

That's why he ended up on Sakaar. If they hadn't done that, he might have gone willingly.

Edit: Ronin'ed.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 6th 2021 at 4:08:21 PM

Read this post for my first theory, and this post for my second one.
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:08:09 PM

If he had been sent to the peaceful planet apparently things would've turned out really well. When the creatures there became sentient, they worshipped him as their protector.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
slimcoder King Shark is a Shark
King Shark is a Shark
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:13:46 PM

Sakaar turned out pretty great for him. Hulk's perfect for a gladiator world and over there he saved the planet, became king, and got the girl.

If it wasn't for Miek he'd have no reason to leave.

"It's been an honor to fight by your side."
Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 6th 2021 at 9:41:55 PM

In fairness, the Avengers didn't send Hulk into space.

Tony did. And the rest of the Illuminati. Not including Steve, Hank, Jan, Thor, Vision, Wanda, and of course not including Jarvis.

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Apr 6th 2021 at 9:56:15 PM

Heroes tend not to hold grudges for too long against each other, except for interpersonal drama that rarely stops them from doing their jobs together.

Even the new Devil Hulk wasn't that pissed off at Hawkeye for killing him. He threatened him a little, but that was really just to make him sweat and not out of genuine hostility.

Apr 7th 2021 at 1:39:39 AM

Turns out he does care about the Avengers. He cares so much, in fact, that when he learns that he's been replaced with Cap, he immediately sets off to murder them all.

Was this what lead to him meeting Namor for the first time? It was even referenced in immortal Hulk.

Hulk always seemed more at home with the Defenders.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 7th 2021 at 4:41:10 AM

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

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