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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#41902: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:03:46 AM

Squad Thanos: With this Infinity Gauntlet, I, Thanos, will rule the universe!

MCU Thanos: Might I make suggestion?

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#41903: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:17:23 AM

Marvel's teen heroes tend to always be in a tight spot. Aging them too much will make the older heroes seem too old. They're too old for Improbable Infant Survival. It's a good thing teen heroes are good cannon fodder.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41904: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:21:55 AM

Reptil did survived. He appeared in a cameo in a Iron Heart issue, if I recall, alongside Striker.

Bec66 Since: Dec, 2016
#41905: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:44:30 AM

[up][up] I’d prefer characters I like don’t become cannon fodder just so we can give the illusion of realism during over bloated events that I’m not going to read. I do worry which of the champions are on the chopping block now that their book was cancelled. Miles, Khamala, Riri, and maybe Nadia seem safe but for the characters who don’t have their own books who knows.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#41906: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:45:06 AM

They’re definitely going to die

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#41908: Sep 8th 2019 at 9:29:13 AM

It's honestly pathetic that the teen heroes can get killed off with a near permanent death. Wallflower has been dead for over a decade.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#41909: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:27:24 AM

You don't need new heroes! You've got Cyclops! He's still cool! He's not old! Because he was cool when I was a kid and if he was old then that would make ME old, and I'M NOT OLD! I'M NOT OLD!

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#41910: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:33:57 AM

He was never cool when you were a kid.

Don't lie to me.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#41911: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:34:25 AM

Why are you using the guy who’s constantly derided & villainized by various writers as an example?

Wolverine would be a better example since he’s constantly propped up as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 8th 2019 at 10:34:57 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41912: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:39:17 AM

See, considering Logan can always slice his own bread, you undermined yourself there.[lol]

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#41913: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:41:28 AM

It's no wonder that Wolverine in the wrong hands can be considered a Marty Stu.

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#41914: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:43:25 AM

[up]Funny, one of the reason’s I like Whedon’s Astonishing X-Men run so much is how sparingly he used Wolverine. Of the six or seven X-Men on that team, Logan was the least important to the plot and the most static as a character. He wasn’t the focus, or the key to the bad guy’s plan, or searching for ANSWERS ABOUT HIS PAST. He was just there to be part of the team and do cool stuff, but not in a way that drew focus away from other characters. He was strategically deployed.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41915: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:44:53 AM

I mean, that's exactly what's happened isn't it?

While he still has his fans, a lot of long time comic readers are sick of Logan and wish he'd just die...putting him back in his original state from the All New, all Different, days before Frank Miller got his hands on him.

Because a character like Logan is very easy to misconstrue especially when he's made to look good at the expense of someone else.

It's the same thing with Batman; people became so obsessed with making him the biggest bad ass in existence that it soured a lot of people on him, who now want to shit on him at every opportunity.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#41916: Sep 8th 2019 at 11:00:51 AM

Also X-Men Evolution made Logan tolerable due to not being the major focus on the show, and you said just another character and not the image of the show.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#41917: Sep 8th 2019 at 11:19:54 AM

[up]One of the many reasons that show is my favorite animated X-Men adaptation.

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#41918: Sep 8th 2019 at 11:20:38 AM

Holy fuck you guys, I dont know if its been said already, but in Brazil a major controversy has started due to a gay kiss on a Marvel Comic. Its been censored, I dont know how, but the story took an AWESOME turn and a Major Newspaper put the kiss ON THE FRONT PAGE.

https://twitter.com/rmunizagav/status/1170395695486046209

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41919: Sep 8th 2019 at 11:28:23 AM

Oh man, that's sweet. I've been following the story, which has been one turn after the other.

For those who don't know, on Friday the Mayor of Rio de Janeiro tried to "sweep" the Bienal do Livro, Brazil's biggest literary festival, for Avengers: The Children's Crusade, since it has a kiss between two gay characters (Wiccan and Hulkling) and is ostensibly aimed at children. There are no sex scenes, there is no nudity, it's one kiss, but apparently he was seized by Gay Panic and started saying "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" and sent the police to sweep the festival.

Except as soon as people heard about this all of the copies of the book sold out. Like, almost immediately. They could find any copies, because people had already bought them.

Of course, that didn't stop the Mayor from trying to sweep the festival for other comics with gay content. A judge ruled against him, but then another judge ruled in his favor (just for content aimed at children however), but now he's sent armed police to round up any LGBTQ+ books they can find.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 8th 2019 at 11:30:14 AM

Bec66 Since: Dec, 2016
#41921: Sep 8th 2019 at 12:12:25 PM

[up][up] Well someone’s not getting re-elected.

Even artist Jim Cheung had something to say about the controversy.

https://www.cbr.com/jim-cheung-reacts-to-young-avengers-comic-being-banned-in-brazil/

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#41922: Sep 8th 2019 at 6:07:09 PM

It's no wonder that Wolverine in the wrong hands can be considered a Marty Stu.

That's the thing, Wolverine is great when he's not treated as a Marty Stu.

While he still has his fans, a lot of long time comic readers are sick of Logan and wish he'd just die.

That's clearly not true or he would have stayed dead. So it seems like it was a vocal minority that wanted him to just die, otherwise we'd still have Laura as Wolverine.

Though honestly having Old Man Logan around kinda undermined her tenure as Wolverine.

Edited by Cortez on Sep 8th 2019 at 9:15:36 AM

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Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#41923: Sep 8th 2019 at 9:32:29 PM

"He was never cool when you were a kid." Speaking as a lifelong Cyclops fan who even liked him in the '90s cartoon . . . this is true. Scott has always been kind of a dork, even at his coolest. It's part of why I love him.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#41924: Sep 8th 2019 at 9:50:46 PM

They should just play him up like the dork he is. People find dorks endearing these days. I've seen it.

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 8th 2019 at 1:53:35 PM

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#41925: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:52:17 PM

Yeah, Scott fans find him endearing because of that.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

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