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Her and Spidey Gwen could use a relaunch down the line.

X5 Well, Gurihiru is on Unstoppable Wasp so yeah, there's that!

I'm thinking with Spider-Gwen, both her and Miles' books are likely to come out of whatever the Spidergeddon event ends up being.

Would like for Silk to get her book back as well.

So I read the What If issue that was set 25 years after the original Secret Wars, with all the heroes and villains having stopped fighting and had kids. One is the son of the Lizard. But it doesn't say who the mother is. And I'm really curious who the mother is. And I really hope the conception happened while he was Curt Connors.

Was it set on battleworld?

It would have to be, Lizard already had a son and wife on Earth at the time of the original story

Yep. It honestly wasn't a particularly good story, but most What Ifs are pretty lame stories.

Out of curiosity, what would you say are the good ones?

What If? Civil War where the Watcher trolls Tony by showing him a future where he and Cap set aside their differences and ushered in a golden age of heroics was pretty fun.

I liked What If Annihilation, What If the Avengers All Had Beards, What If Korvac for supporting my bias against Korvac, and several of the secret wars books which were basically What Ifs

The one that introduced Spider-Girl was actually pretty good. I honestly can't remember any others. The vast majority were cool concepts that just didn't have the space to be executed in a genuinely compelling way.

What Ifs sound like they're more fun to write than to read.

The What If Captain American Were Revived Today (the 1980s one) was really good.

For some reason my favorite What Ifs are these:

• The one where the Avengers didn’t stay as a team after the Hulk left, and it ended up with all of them coming together as a team but in Iron Man armor (I think that’s how the story went, damn selective memories)
• The one where Uncle Ben didn’t get killed. It was pretty interesting to see how he reacted to learning that Peter is Spider-Man.
• The one where the Fantastic Four fought Doctor Doom . . . before the accident that gave them their powers. I do always wonder why Doom never fucked with Richard in between the time of him getting expelled from college and the fateful cosmic accident that created the Fantastic Four. This one is definitely my favorite.

I liked the one that was about what if Erskin had been killed before using the super soldier formula on Steve.

So I just read the Wolverine The Origin 2002 miniseries

The one where Wolverine was a sickly rich kid with allergies and accidentally killed his childhood friend and first love when she tripped and fell on his claws and also he befriends a wolf pack and gets the name Logan and Wolverine, the habit of calling people bub, and his love of Japan all while working in a stone quarry

So I guess my question is how long that took to retcon

It's still canon. Jeph Loeb later wrote a Wolverine: Origins series that added entirely new backstory to the character.

Okay how many origins does he have?

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 30th 2018 at 11:48:35 AM

About the nicest thing I can say about it is that the original outlines for it were even worse

It seriously falls into most of the big prequel pitfalls

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 30th 2018 at 2:51:56 PM

Welp Lockjaw ded.

Marvel is cancelled forever.

...wow, Marvel really does hate fun.

Wait where?

Angry.

Of course you realize that this means war!