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Agentnutty Agent JC(Just Collateral) from UNACTO Basement level Since: Jun, 2022 Relationship Status: Robosexual
Agent JC(Just Collateral)
#9701: Aug 2nd 2023 at 5:41:44 PM

Eh, Anita had goods and bads(Defending Amber herd, yoinking people's vids without permission, etc...) but death threats should never be condoned.

And her shutting down the channel is I think, is a part of the progress. Many AAA companies now implements more diverse and inclusive ideas in games nowadays. Of course, the workplace ethnics still needs works but that's not relevant with this topics.

Does that mean I don't get the job?
Bishop999 Since: Feb, 2011
#9702: Aug 2nd 2023 at 5:50:58 PM
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Bishop999 Since: Feb, 2011
#9703: Aug 2nd 2023 at 6:13:26 PM
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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#9705: Aug 2nd 2023 at 6:38:32 PM

Thumped posts aren't to be discussed anymore. Let's move on.

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Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#9706: Aug 2nd 2023 at 6:54:13 PM

Agreed. Nobody convicted of a serious violent or sexual crime should get custody of kids.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#9707: Aug 2nd 2023 at 7:05:45 PM
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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#9708: Aug 2nd 2023 at 7:09:01 PM
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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#9709: Aug 2nd 2023 at 7:21:14 PM

Abortion is explicitly a banned topic in OTC for a reason, folks.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#9710: Aug 2nd 2023 at 7:23:16 PM

OOPS! SORRY! Wont ever do this again!

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editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#9711: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:07:14 PM

In terms of Sarkeesian, I remember I liked some of her video essays way back, but I was pretty out of the loop when it comes to all the controversy. It's quite interesting that she has been running her own organisation all this time.

Given that the arguments I heard her make struck me as quite logical and clearly reasoned, to be honest I never much cared for the 'Gamergate' side of things which seemed to spiral out of control.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#9712: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:16:55 PM

Her takes weren't perfect, but then again which Youtube videogame critic's takes are perfect?

Edited by M84 on Aug 2nd 2023 at 11:17:02 PM

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Murataku Don't Feed The Plant from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Don't Feed The Plant
#9713: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:43:53 PM

[up][up]Not entirely sure, but I think Gamergate itself is a banned topic since it'snear-impossble to discuss without fights breaking out. I could well be wrong though.

As for Sarkeesan, I had a lot of issues with her content and its accuracy, but death threats aren't on. Sadly common on the internet in general, though.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#9714: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:47:24 PM

Though note that most other male Youtubers who do videogame reviews don't get nearly the same kind of violent pushback. Heck, it's been noted that Jack Thompson never got the same kind of pushback despite actually trying to make videogames and their players scapegoats for all of society's ills.

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Imca (Veteran)
#9715: Aug 2nd 2023 at 9:01:30 PM

I never quite liked her myself, her videos often came across as surface level feminism at best, with some of them having poor or outright contradictory takes.

...

Which makes it all the more fucked up that she became the lightning rod that she did, if it wasn't for the hate she got just from being a woman who dared to speak out about video-games, she would have been forgotten about in a couple weeks, like I am pretty sure a lot of people have for years before this announcement...

Ironicaly the assholes who made hating her there whole personality ended up creating the very thing they railed agianst.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#9716: Aug 2nd 2023 at 9:17:59 PM

As I mentioned in the video games thread, I can't say I'm too familiar with her.

What I understand from what I have heard is that there's genuine legitimate criticisms of her work and she has some bad takes, but she's also a victim of crazy-ass misogynist vermin. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Leviticus 19:34
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#9717: Aug 2nd 2023 at 9:53:23 PM

There are millions of people online with dogshit takes on fiction. It's no coincidence that it was one of the first prominent women to discuss video games specifically on Youtube who got hate campaigns and death threats.

[up] The two aren't mutually exclusive, but neither is the former actually relevant to the latter. Nothing Sarkeesian said or could have said merited the reaction she got and continues to get.

It's been fun.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#9718: Aug 2nd 2023 at 9:58:49 PM

Like I said, plenty of videogame Youtubers have shitty takes. Most of them don't get death threats over them.

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MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#9719: Aug 2nd 2023 at 10:55:01 PM

Yes.

You can say whatever you want about how well-researched or not her videos were or how much of a man-hating feminist she was or wasn’t, that doesn’t particularly matter here.

Because ultimately, she was a woman om the Internet with an opinion. And in the eyes of a ”Gamer”TM, that’s just about the worst thing to ever exist.

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Imca (Veteran)
#9720: Aug 2nd 2023 at 11:06:46 PM

Agian for as hated as Jack Tompson was, not even he got that level of vitrol.

And he was more of "a threat to videogames" too.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#9721: Aug 2nd 2023 at 11:08:22 PM

Did Hillary Clinton get that shit too?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#9722: Aug 2nd 2023 at 11:09:53 PM

Of course she did. She was a woman heavily involved in politics and ran for President.

It didn't help that the GOP hype train spent decades demonizing her. They never got over her helping to convict Nixon.

Edited by M84 on Aug 3rd 2023 at 2:10:44 AM

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Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#9723: Aug 3rd 2023 at 1:19:39 AM

[up][up][up] Which makes it even more ridiculous I suppose. If you want to "protect" video games, Thomson is the person you should go after. Obvisly nobody deserves death threats including Jerkasses like him, and I'm hardly surprised by such SkewedPriorities, but still.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#9724: Aug 3rd 2023 at 1:25:14 AM

Hell, Trump tried to blame mass shootings on video games back in 2019, yet I didn't see any comments from the usual anti-SJW voices about that.

And really, what "damage" did Sarkeesian actually do to video games? Jiggle Physics, Stripperiffic costumes and damsels in distress didn't vanish from media just because she complained about them. Were "Gamers" so insecure about their hobby they had to pretend she had more influence over the medium than she actually did?

Edited by windleopard on Aug 3rd 2023 at 9:31:36 AM

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A procrastination in of itself
#9725: Aug 3rd 2023 at 1:25:54 AM

The most blatant example of the Gamergate sexism for me was the bit around a game review.

For those unaware, a game made by a (female) dev received a positive review from a (male) game journalist, shortly after the review was published the two entered into a romantic relationship.

The internet backlash was substantive and it’s where the line about “ethics in games journalism” comes from. Except almost the entire backlash was aimed at the dev, Total Biscuit (who already had a history of calling out games journalists for shady stuff) went after the journalist who’d potentially breached journalistic ethics and found himself basically alone. The rest of the internet were busy yelling at the closest women.

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