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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6101: Sep 28th 2022 at 12:27:22 PM

I can't condone any roster without Manchester Black.

He'd be perfect, especially since the Injustice universe gave him what he wanted.

But I'd be happy with any Superman villain.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#6102: Feb 28th 2023 at 12:06:44 PM

I just thought of something - Injustice 1 ends with Batman having a working hotline to the alternate dimension with the heroic League.

He made no attempt to contact them during Injustice 2 when Diana and Adam were raising hell, and resorted to freeing Clark instead of calling them.

Nick Fury and Bruce Wayne, despite being The Chessmaster, are god-awful at picking up the phone and calling people who can solve their problems.

Edited by FOFD on Feb 28th 2023 at 3:07:21 PM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#6103: Feb 28th 2023 at 12:56:21 PM

I can see why the game and Bruce wouldn't want to go running off to an alternate universe for help every time they had a problem. It undermines their own ability and agency.

On the other it's really weird it's not address in-story because it references in it in the existence of Dinah and Ollie and it's also referenced in so many clash quotes, ladder endings and whole game modes that it's silly to pretend it's not a thing.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#6104: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:38:41 AM

According to a podcast interview with Ed Boon, Injustice 3 will be the next project after Mortal Kombat 1.

The legend has returned.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6105: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:40:16 AM

Oh, they rebooting Mortal Kombat again?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#6106: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:46:31 AM

Sort of. After the events of Mortal Kombat 11, Liu Kang is now in charge of the time stream and thus he wants to start over things correctly. Based on how these things tend to go, this should go smoothly for everyone involved.

The legend has returned.
PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#6107: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:48:59 AM

If they're doing another Injustice, could they please move away from the evil Superman/Wonder Woman stuff this time?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6108: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:49:57 AM

How about Regime Superman vs The Batman who Laughs?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#6109: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:52:27 AM

I'm personally cool with a new villain popping up. Depending on if this will be the last Injustice or not, I want it to be either the Anti-Monitor, Trigon, or Darkseid.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Jun 12th 2023 at 9:53:07 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6110: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:53:49 AM

It would be cool if they could somehow put Perpetua in this, but unlikely.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#6111: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:08:43 AM

I am interested in how Injustice works now that the whole Evil Superman wave has passed.

More better written examples like Invincible and The Boys have gone by, the dissolution of Snyder's cynical movie universe, and plus the recent arrival of more optimistic Superman material.

The popular Superman & Lois show, plus the upcoming My Adventures with Superman cartoon, and Gunn's Superman Legacy.

Injustice comes across as archaic at this point with its very negative treatment of Superman and Wonder Woman, especially in favor of the extremely overexposed Batman and Harley Quinn.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6112: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:27:58 AM

I don't think Injustice was doing what it was to ride some kind of popularity high, so probably nothing will change unless they just decide to scrap the series and make an entirely different one.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 7:28:16 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6113: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:32:42 AM

They could totally bring in regular Supes to help out.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#6115: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:42:30 AM

They could do a storyline about fascist Batman trying to conquer everyone

Its only fair play tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6116: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:43:27 AM

From the direction the last game was going, my guess is that could full of make it a DC multiverse fighting game, but keep the Injustice universe the focal point since that's what the series is established around.

Basically an evolution of what MK 11 did, where outside the story mode in the battle interactions the fiction was that loads of timelines were converging and characters were having constant meetings with alternate versions of themselves, but the main MK universe people was still the focal point. Doing that as the main story would be fun.

I would say that would satisfy everyone, but I think a lot of the vitriol surrounding the Injustice games' universe is based solely around the fact that it exists, so that portion likely won't ever be happy.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 7:45:29 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#6117: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:46:16 AM

Huh. Have Harley meet a classic version of herself who never separated from the Joker.

Be a nice little nightmare for her.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#6118: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:53:32 AM

[up][up] Well it's not like Wonder Woman fans have any reason to enjoy the existence of the franchise.

It's agreed upon that Injustice Diana is the worst incarnation of the character across the board, they have genuinely gotten nothing out of this franchise (games or comics wise) in terms of Wondy representation.

And Superman fans have to deal with the game making the perception that Lois dying would make Superman fly off the handle and become a mass-murdering dictator common knowledge.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 12th 2023 at 8:01:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#6119: Jun 12th 2023 at 7:58:41 AM

@Handsome Rob.

Yeah but we could have more of regular Superman helping out with the Injustice universe.

I'd love to see how Kara would react to him.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6120: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:02:52 AM

[up][up] I dunno, people freaking the hell out because an Elseworlds or dark twist adaptation happens to exist has always weirded me out. It's not like any of that has ever had any bearing on the real versions of those characters whatsoever.

I've been reading comics for way too long to have a serious problem with "in this universe, X character is evil, or did awful things, or is a vampire or a serial killer or a crime boss or is written by Frank Miller or whatever." That sort of thing happens all the time, and is kind of inevitable with a franchise with this sort of cultural zeitgeist.

But I keep wondering if this is all those people's first time ever experiencing that sort of thing, so they honestly came to the mistaken conclusion that Injustice was actually trying to say that Superman, Wonder Woman, etc are supposed to be this way rather than... well... just being another adaptation, leading to widespread overreactions.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 8:17:13 AM

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#6121: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:14:52 AM

[up]Well, for a start this is the only major representation of Wonder Woman in a videogame. In fact, until the movie in 2017, Wonder Woman didn't get much attention outside the comics at all. So for a while this was the main version of Wonder Woman to represent the character outside of the comics.

The fact that her character and reason for being evil are even more shallow than Superman's.

As to Superman. Writers go to the "what if Superman was evil" well a lot, even when they're not using the man himself they're creating expies and stand-ins. Frankly, I am more than a little burned-out on the concept. And if you do read the comics, "Superman turns evil" was an overused concept even when the first game came out.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6122: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:18:57 AM

Well, for a start this is the only major representation of Wonder Woman in a videogame. In fact, until the movie in 2017, Wonder Woman didn't get much attention outside the comics at all.

That's not the game's fault or responsibility, however. And it's not really a mentality that's feasible for this sort of thing in the first place.

"We want to write this story that puts a dark twist on the character, but we can't until someone else decides to make a more positive video game based on the character, so until then this game can't be made" was never going to be a realistic stance someone was going to take.

Writers go to the "what if Superman was evil" well a lot, even when they're not using the man himself they're creating expies and stand-ins.

Yeah, about that. I've been a Superman fan for a long time, and no. This doesn't exceptionally happen to Clark moreso than other characters.

It does happen, because Superman is the superhero and as such if you're making an evil take on superheroes Superman is going to be the inspiration, but literal evil versions of Superman being more prominent in official or licensed DC works isn't something that happens anywhere near as often as the Injustice hatedom likes to claim it does. Other writers take those inspirations for their expies, but the existence of those expies is also not Netherrealm's responsibility.

Part if my annoyance at this is also the idea that this uniquely happens to Superman, when... well... it doesn't. Hell, the very month Injustice 2 came out DC officially released a canon story in which a bunch of evil versions of Batman showed up and descended upon the universe, one of which became freaking ubiquitous. And as far as adaptations go the Arrowverse was running at the same time, and that adapted two evil Batmans, an evil Flash, an evil Green Arrow, versions of several characters who were Nazis, etc.

As I said before, it happens. People freaking out over Injustice specifically for doing it for some reason never made any sense. There's nothing about Injustice that wouldn't also be applied to the DCAU for clearly being Netherrealm's primary inspiration, or series like The Boys for blowing up in popularity for similar ideas, but Injustice - and only Injustice - is everyone's arbirary focus for where the phenomenon needs to go away, which is silly.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 8:29:41 AM

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#6123: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:23:11 AM

Part of why I would have preferred the second game to be a different universe with an evil Batman rather than a direct sequel. And this pending third game could have briefly had an evil Wonder Woman as the playable villain before realizing something was wrong and going after whatever true villain is fucking with the three of them and providing super-serum to everyone.

Especially since the Injustice universe has been a slaughterhouse to justify the game roster. The comics were fun but still come off as excusing why Character X isn't in the game and the answer was "because Superman killed the shit out of him".

Like Harvey Bollock, that great gruff cop from BTAS who thinks Batman needs to let the real authorities handle shit, appears in like three panels of the Big Magic Storyline to get killed alongside . . . Professor Chimp (?) and like four other names, in a single attack. The whole series was like that, like six of the goddamn 20 Green Lanterns babysitting Earth died in one story. Superman lasers a building fighting Batman and someone yells "Oh no, Captain Powers was in there, along with Doctorman and Animal-Girl, and Cousin Bob! They're all dead!".

But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6124: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:25:08 AM

[up] Given how much Netherrealm seems to like him, I'd be surprised if we didn't see The Batman Who Laughs in an upcoming game.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#6125: Jun 12th 2023 at 8:30:22 AM

[up][up][up]RE: Wonder Woman.

That's great, still chafes that the only real representation of Wonder Woman outside the comics was the mockery that goes against everything the character stands for. That we couldn't get a version that played the character straight before we get the dark, twisted version of her.

It doesn't help the games never explain why she's evil, she just is. Which brings up the question of why she was even in the Justice League before Superman's fall, if she was evil to begin with.

Edited by PhoenixAct on Jun 12th 2023 at 4:30:47 PM


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