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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#276: May 12th 2017 at 11:13:30 PM

[up][up] Moroccans think they are a European country stuck in Africa too.

edited 12th May '17 11:13:50 PM by FireCrawler2002

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#277: May 13th 2017 at 6:27:56 AM

Yeah, there is a lot of racism in Argentina (and anti-semitism, I do remember classmates "greeting me" with a Nazi salute because I'm Jewish), though I think it's the non-institutionalized kind (as in: people can face bigoted acts committed by Argentines but there are no overall institutions or systems designed to screw over minorities the way you have in the US for example).

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#278: May 13th 2017 at 7:27:43 AM

[up]That is pretty much the norm in South America when it comes to racism.

The lack of outright discrimination laws even makes convincing certain people that racism is a real issue in South America because no one made laws forbidding freed slaves and Native Americans from entering the mainstream society, but with or without law, the mainstream society simply didn't allow them in on the first place.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#279: May 13th 2017 at 11:42:10 AM

They is racism but not codifies in a overall narrative, here in Venezuela we have the bad tendecy of call "negrito" to the guy who have the darkers skinn(which it dosent mean much) or saying "ese no es negro es azul"(he is not Black but blue) which is....Yeah.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#280: May 13th 2017 at 12:32:56 PM

I think the issue of racism in Latin America can be summed up to: it exists, it's not as pronounced as in other places but it exists.

[up][up] I recall reading a book about that, it was a recollection of the marriage certificates that were registred during the time of the Viceroyalties and one of the things that made mention upon was that racism was something more prominent in the upper echelons of society, whereas for the commons, things like that were not widespread, thanks in part to the idiosincracy of the Spanish, who were more used to diversity and were not always on the best economical condition, the -admittedly, minor at times- efforts of the Catholic Church and the eventual mix of races that happened in the first years of the Conquest.

edited 13th May '17 12:49:10 PM by raziel365

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#281: May 14th 2017 at 6:36:13 PM

I'm aware of the fame of Mexican soup operas, but I'm most familiar with El Chavo Del Ocho, El Chapulín Colorado and RBD.

@Mad Skillz: ... So, you're saying Brazil and Argentina are like a shonen main character and their rival?

LoutishHelminthic Since: May, 2017
#282: May 14th 2017 at 9:26:20 PM

I very scary with the elections on Brazil next Year principally if ends with Bolsonaro vs Lula at the end .

But I think that huge tension at Election's year is common on every democratic contry .

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#283: May 14th 2017 at 9:27:31 PM

[up] The tension has been ramping up since populist nativism seems to be "in" these days. And that never ends well.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LoutishHelminthic Since: May, 2017
#284: May 14th 2017 at 9:39:23 PM

At least I can enjoy this years before all the shit starts ...

Lula said on tweeter that will regulate media if being re elect I think that will don't ends well, and Bolsonaro is out of question .

edited 14th May '17 9:41:34 PM by LoutishHelminthic

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#285: May 14th 2017 at 9:50:55 PM

I'm worried about that myself because if we elect Bolsonaro we're basically fucked for who knows how long. Democracy in Brazil is fragile and we're talking about a guy who lionizes and is an apologist for a dictatorship, to the point where he outright denies it was a dictatorship. I think he's worse than Donald Trump in nearly every way. If he's elected we might as well not have civil rights anymore. I'd vote for a ham sandwich over him.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#286: May 14th 2017 at 9:53:25 PM

[up] I suppose a head of state who does absolutely nothing would be preferable to one who is actively destructive.

Heck, a ham sandwich would at least give mold a good home.

edited 14th May '17 9:53:36 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#287: May 14th 2017 at 10:04:28 PM

Yeah, pretty much. If you think Trump is bigoted, this guy is on an entirely different level.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#288: May 14th 2017 at 10:32:05 PM

I don't think that the trump phenomenon will remain in the U.S. Latin america has a rather distinct "monkey see monkey do" mentality and here's the thing baout Trump: it worked for him. So if it would get them elected, I don't see why there wouldn't be latin american Trumps coming out somewhere in between, and I don't think our voters are smarter than the U.S ones for me to comfortably say "that level of idiot would never be elected president!"

Hell, in my country the recently elected president of the assembly is already going that way what the mayor of the capital and now president of the assembly being put in power by the votes of pwoer hungry politicians fueled by the votes of evangelists

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#289: May 15th 2017 at 4:14:00 AM

@Morocco: for decades they thought themselves an Arab country stuck in Africa.

European aspirations are mostly in the Europe educated elites. It's similar to Turkey in that way, especially Istanbul.

But the winds of history seem to favor the Erdogans of the world.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#290: May 15th 2017 at 7:58:26 AM

Bolsonaro is basically Trump if he merged with Paul Ryan, Dick Cheney and Mike Pence into his unholy final form.

The problem now seems to be Lava-Jato is annihilating the entire political slate of Brazil, and we're running out of big politicians unaffected by it. Lula, Aécio and Bolsonaro seem to be the only 3 big names that are surviving the onslaught of the investigation.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#291: May 15th 2017 at 8:01:30 AM

[up]And it doesn't stay in Brazil. I think Santos (Colombian president and Nobel peace Prize last year) and a few "C-list" politicians in my country have been involved in Lava Jato and Odebrecht related scandals too.

edited 15th May '17 8:02:16 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#292: May 15th 2017 at 8:25:35 AM

I am not exactly excited with the prospects of the Brazilian election.

Lula, is living in borrowed time and his popularity still very polarized with a good chunk of the country attributing to him the success Brazil enjoyed between 2002 and 2010 and treating him like a messiah for the poor and lower classes.

On the other side he is the main responsible for the crisis we're in now, for benefiting from the corruption schemes in order to stay in power, giving his position to a totally ineffective successor and being a complete hypocrite.

Lula's Chewbacca Defense, blaming the Lava Jato for the unemployment and blaming the media for everything that happened to him as being lies and slander during his auditions for the Lava Jato trials aren't helping either, along the chances of him being convicted for passive and active corruption, there is also the feel that if he walks and he gets reelected he will purge and halt the corruption investigations over his party and retaliate against everyone who wronged him.

The country loathes the PSDB for allying with the PMDB on top of its fuck ups and corruption, so many candidate they launch will have ridiculously small chance of being elected.

Bolsonaro resonates with the traditional family values groups and those who are getting fed up with the state of violence and crime in Brazil, which has been getting worse over the years. However Bolsonario still as much of a populist as Lula is and some of his actions and policies still leave a bad taste in the mouths of everyone who isn't the focus of his rhetoric, which happens to be a very big chunk of the country. Not to mention those who bothered with history classes or are more informed of politics knows that none of his solutions will fix anything.

I for one, don't like the prospect of having the Workers Party back in the presidency, specially over their tendencies of using a lot of propaganda to take the credit of every favorable outcome in the country and convince that them and only them are the ones responsible for making the lives of the poor better. Specially because of that propaganda, it becomes harder to criticize and make the Worker's Party accountable for their failures, corruption and mistakes, since it will draw hordes of people defending their actions no matter how stupid or inexcusable they are.

For the current state of Brazil: SNAFU!

edited 15th May '17 8:27:25 AM by AngelusNox

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Stormtroper from Little Venice Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#293: May 16th 2017 at 9:08:23 AM

@Racism: Can't say I've noticed it, but as a soap opera character once said, "in Venezuela you have to be black to know that racism exists".

Hmmm... on second though, racism towards aboriginals is readily visible.

@Best Guay: North Korea, compared to 19th century Paraguay.

edited 16th May '17 9:15:59 AM by Stormtroper

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#294: May 17th 2017 at 4:23:50 PM

Well remember how I said Bolsonaro, Lula and Aécio were the last great political names standing.

Make that Bolsonaro and Lula.

It's being reported in all major news sources that President Temer (put in power via his a "the coup") was taped running a bribery scheme to keep several jailed politcians with their mouth shut. And Aécio was taped asking him for 2 million to keep his own mouth shut.

If this is indeed the case, this could quite well spell the end for Aécio and Temer's endeavors in the foreseeable future.

Not everyday you see the reports the President himself was taped running a bribery racket.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#295: May 17th 2017 at 5:00:35 PM

[up]Welp. Help us Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, you're our only hope.

And I can't believe I just said that.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#296: May 17th 2017 at 5:05:09 PM

I feel like the next elections will be a choosing between eating a bucked of shit versus sniffing can of Zyklon-B.

No points for guessing which one is which.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#297: May 17th 2017 at 5:13:42 PM

Are there any good Latin American presidents atm?

I know Nieto is shit.

edited 17th May '17 5:14:03 PM by MadSkillz

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#298: May 17th 2017 at 5:43:23 PM

[up]What's your criteria for good? I do prefer my current president to the one before based on this one not trying to destroy independent media and being generally less authoritarian (our former president, for example, did the heavily racist and insane tweets about stuff before Trump made it popular), even if he's taking more measures I disagree (and outright hate, in some cases) with as time goes by. I think Uruguay's president is fine enough.

edited 17th May '17 5:43:47 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#299: May 17th 2017 at 5:55:50 PM

Not just tolerable or decent but actually like someone who is good at their job and improving their country.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#300: May 17th 2017 at 6:15:17 PM

Is Chile doing decently?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

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