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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#226: Jun 29th 2018 at 4:04:30 PM

Destroying objects of power is usually a bad idea

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#227: Jun 29th 2018 at 5:07:07 PM

And so is not destroying them. Kind of a Catch-22 isn't it?

Edited by Fighteer on Jun 29th 2018 at 8:08:45 AM

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#228: Jun 29th 2018 at 8:12:02 PM

One thing I'm annoyed is that if Strange saw the outcome and didn't stop Star Lord...why did he even bother with the plan to begin with? Might as well just saved everyone trouble and hand over the Time Stone.

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#229: Jun 29th 2018 at 9:06:59 PM

There's a bit of Omniscient Morality License going on here. Strange couldn't do what you suggest because it would have led to a bad outcome. It just looks like he's doing something wrong (or not doing something he could do).

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#230: Jun 29th 2018 at 9:20:56 PM

Basically, the Butterfly Effect is a bitch.

Edited by Karxrida on Jun 29th 2018 at 9:21:11 AM

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#231: Jun 29th 2018 at 9:28:37 PM

Well then, Infinity War Part 2 comes out, here's hoping there's an actual explanation for Strange's nonsensical action.

Until then, though, it's a fair game to call Strange out on that.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 30th 2018 at 1:34:42 AM

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#232: Jun 30th 2018 at 8:56:01 PM

He probably saw a bunch of scenarios where they beat Thanos, but someone present on Titan put on the Gauntlet and went mad with power.

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#233: Jul 1st 2018 at 3:42:32 AM

If he just handed over the Time Gem, Thanos might suspect a trap.

Others have noted that Thanos never uses the Reality Gem and it feels like he could have avoided the entire fight that way. Which, I think, is the same logic. Strange points out that his spell can't be removed by anyone but him; if Thanos just turned everyone to sand, that might still be true and then where would he be?

My interpretation is that both Strange and Thanos were playing the long game. Thanos was drawing out the fight to try and bait Strange into giving in and using the Time Gem. The moment the Eye of Agamotto opens, suddenly Strange would be teleported into a black hole or turned to salt or some shit and Thanos would claim the Gem.

Strange, meanwhile, was drawing out the fight to wait for an opportune moment to do it that wouldn't result in Thanos killing him or one of the others to get it. Strange had no desire to be teleported into a black hole or turned into a pillar of salt. He also didn't want Thanos going, "This was too easy. What's your game?"

So Thanos was trying to push them just hard enough that Strange thinks he can win and tries to activate the Time Gem but not so hard that Strange gives up and decides it's better if they all die here and Thanos just never breaks his spell. And Strange was looking for an opportune moment to surrender the Time Gem to Thanos while making it look like an act of desperation rather than subterfuge so that Thanos wouldn't question it. Neither of them was actually trying to win the fight.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 1st 2018 at 4:44:54 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#234: Jul 1st 2018 at 9:27:03 AM

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I can actually buy all of that.

I mean, we more or less know the Strange part is true, but the Thanos part is interesting and makes sense. As the one actively collecting the stones, he'd likely have some knowledge of their abilities (and maybe even how to counter them), so him playing it safe and trying to get Strange to give it to him could work.

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#236: Jul 26th 2018 at 2:27:27 PM

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Infinity War alternate HISHE

Edited by Eagal on Jul 26th 2018 at 2:27:06 AM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
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#239: Jul 26th 2018 at 8:03:49 PM

Was there something special about the area that Heimdalll sent Thanos and Company to, cause it looked like a random section of space to me, but the way they put emphasis on what Heimdall did makes me think it was somewhere important.

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#240: Jul 27th 2018 at 5:32:07 AM

I don't know... any random part of space will be so far away from anything that you might as well have vanished from existence.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#241: Jul 27th 2018 at 6:42:18 AM

Was expecting a DCU or Green Lantern joke honestly

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#242: Jul 27th 2018 at 6:51:21 AM

I think Heimdall's remark was meant to satirize the whole "hide the thing where it will never be found" thing. In space, pretty much anywhere qualifies as that. There is nowhere in the universe more remote than any single point in space.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 27th 2018 at 7:50:59 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#243: Jul 27th 2018 at 8:36:02 AM

[up][up][up]And there's even gradations of that. Throw something in interstellar space, and he will indeed have all but vanished from existence.

Throw someone into interGALACTIC space, where even galaxies are mere stars, then they will truly be lost to the cosmos.

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#244: Jul 27th 2018 at 1:15:08 PM

Because Science (on YouTube) did an episode about the probability of "flying through a star" or "getting too close to a supernova" if you took off at lightspeed (or any speed, really) in a random direction. The answer is that you could cross the visible universe and still have something like a one in ten billion billion chance of impacting a star-sized astronomical body.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 27th 2018 at 4:19:49 AM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#245: Jul 27th 2018 at 3:20:02 PM

kinda funny how stars, planets and the like are technically kinda rare in the universe.

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#246: Jul 27th 2018 at 4:56:12 PM

This, incidentally, also applies to GALAXIES colliding. There is so much space between the stars, that the two galaxies will simply ghost through each other, with barely any major collisions happening. What actually disrupts them in that situation is gravitational pull.

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#247: Aug 6th 2018 at 10:38:14 AM

How Deapool 2 Should Have Ended written by the fans.

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#248: Aug 6th 2018 at 11:18:31 AM

The fan-written bits were kind of vanilla, but the actual ending wherein he saves the Villain Pub is just priceless.

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#249: Aug 6th 2018 at 12:42:04 PM

I thought the Quicksilver gag was pretty good.

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#250: Aug 6th 2018 at 5:20:13 PM

They missed an opportunity to point out that Deadpool wasn't the first superhero to travel back in time to save his love interest.


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