This thread is for cleaning up pages that violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy.
Do not use this thread for reporting pages that need to be cut for violating The Content Policy. Report pages that appear too lewd or gushy to have on the wiki using the "Report Page" button on the sidebar, with the checkbox saying "The page may violate the Content Policy" checked. That will create a thread on the Content Violation Discussions subforum
. The thread will be opened by a mod if the report is valid, and if it's deemed necessary, the page will be cleaned according to the Content Policy. (The list of pages that were deemed problematic can be found on The Content Policy's page.)
No Lewdness:
"Lewdness" is more than just being about something sexual or potentially sexual. Here are some signs of lewd writing:
- Personal opinions on hotness. Examples should stand on their own without the introduction of YMMV material. Adding your own thoughts and feelings on an example is an opinion, same as calling an example good or bad. Don't do it. Don't try and extend your feelings to a larger group of fans either, e.g. "...and fangirls everywhere rejoiced". You're not fooling anyone.
- Overly detailed examples. The example doesn't need to be an exact sensory account of the event. Too much of that and you end up sounding like you're writing porn. When in doubt, drop a few adjectives.
- Unrelated fanservice mentions. If the hot bits aren't related to the example, they don't belong in the example.
- Pornographic writing. If you're writing porn, it should be somewhere other than the wiki. Keep it Family Friendly.
- Titillation links. Tell, don't show. We don't need screen shots to illustrate NSFW fanservice. If a reader is really curious, they can go look it up on Google. (See also Weblinks Are Not Examples.)
- Pedo gushing. We don't need to describe children sexually. This should be cut immediately. We're not interested in hosting pedophilia fantasies. Period. If a work contains children having sex, even if portrayed negatively, report it as a potential violation of The Content Policy using the "Report Page" button◊ in the sidebar.
- Talking about actors instead of characters. An actor is not the character they play. When you're writing an example about a work, refer to the character, not the actor. This applies to non-sexual references, but too often it's tropers writing about how they find certain actors hot. That doesn't fit in character examples.
- Thinking a page with a Not Safe for Work subject is license to be lewd. Even when we discuss porn, we are about just stating the facts.
- Fanfic Recs for underage sex. We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex involving people apparently or actually younger than 16. Period. We categorically do not recommend fics with sex in which at least one participant:
- This applies even if all parties are underage.
No Prudishness:
- Don't cutlist or gut pages just because they're about sexual topics. Sex exists. It's used in media a lot. You'll just need to cope with that fact. Relationships, fanservice, and sexual activity all fall into their own tropes as a result.
- Don't be a Bluenose Bowdlerizer. We're not looking to censor all sex off the wiki. If the sex and sexuality is an honest part of the work and relevant to the example, it belongs there.
- The wiki is not rated G. We aren't sanitizing the wiki for small children. Sex and sexuality are part of media and we aren't going to ignore them. This wiki is Family Friendly, not Unsupervised Small Child Friendly. This isn't an excuse to make work pages dirtier than the work itself, as the above No Lewdness section makes clear, but neither is it an excuse to make those pages cleaner than the work itself.
For further explanations, please read this thread
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 6th 2024 at 3:54:01 AM
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It's not cut. You're just missing the namespace. It's Sandbox.What Is Porn.
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likes the cheeses.
VisualNovel.Morenatsu was resolved to keep, but page needs to be cleaned up of any gushing and the incorrect shotacon references removed.
Visit my contributor page to assist with the "I Like The Cheeses" project!
Most of the gushing was about Character Development. Anyways, I cleaned most of the pages (There wasn't much to clean), but someone else needs to take care of the images links. I've had too much Bara for one day doing research on a Fanon related item.
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Magic Skirt may need some de-creepification.
What's precedent ever done for us?
... Isn't the whole point of that trope to prevent Fanservice? I'll look at it in a couple of hours or so. I have to go to church. (BTW, I think this is the wrong thread for that unless I overlooked something in the P5 subforum.)
edited 3rd Jun '12 11:01:02 AM by encrypted12345
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No, it's the right thread.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
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That was also the point of Innocent Panties. Remember how that turned out?
edited 3rd Jun '12 11:00:59 AM by Iaculus
What's precedent ever done for us?
I see. Sorry for the confusion. I'll work on it later today.
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I'm working on it right now and I have a quick question. Is there something wrong about gushing about how frilly the panty shot-covering underskirt is? I get a vague feeling that it is creepy, but in a obsessed about clothes way, not in a way we have to clean. Here's the entry for reference.
About half way into the Video Games section. I just need a small break.
edited 3rd Jun '12 5:18:43 PM by encrypted12345
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Are you suggesting that lengthy gushing about clothes is not something we need to clean?
It may not really fall under the view of this particular issue - I wouldn't honestly know - but it doesn't seem like something we want whatever the circumstances.
Is it? I'm honestly not sure. IMO, its's kind of like gushing about how cool and awesome a Cool Sword is. It still seems borderline judging by the context which is why I'm asking for confirmation.
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Gushing in general isn't really something we want off of Sugar Wiki, regardless of the details.
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
A little gushing in tropes that are about how great something is probably can't be avoided, though it should be minimized. But when it's about someone's clothes, especially undergarments, it's pushing the No Lewdness line.
edited 3rd Jun '12 9:24:17 PM by HersheleOstropoler
The child is father to the man —Oedipus
And I don't need to know about folks going no panty shots of a ten year old? awwww. I shall snip the CCS example.
Yay, other people who are helping. People who are actually morally offended (Some of this stuff does creep me out too, but not as much as it should. I tend to err on the side of being too lenient in case you haven't noticed. My mindset is more "Is this professional sounding?" than "Is this morally objectionable?". Although even I was a bit squicked by how much content the Dawn example had.) 
I tried to clean it of natter and too much detail.
Is that your whole sentence?
edited 3rd Jun '12 8:13:24 PM by animeg3282
My grammar-fu is off today, I guess. It's my whole sentence of rambling.
Anyways, thanks for the help. I'll give it one more look over in case you missed anything.
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Thanks. I'm not morally offended, but there are some things that man was not meant to know.
You're welcome.
In any case, I removed some NSFW links. It should be clean now, but just in case, I'm watchlisting it. I'll probably give it another proofreading sometime tomorrow afternoon unless another request for cleaning comes in. You can never be too careful.
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I'm seeing some one hell of a lot of straight-up porn examples on Fetish Retardant. Probably needs a cleaning.
edited 8th Jun '12 10:28:51 AM by Iaculus
What's precedent ever done for us?
I only saw a few that didn't qualify for the trope and cleaned those up, but I'll double check.
By the way, that page was hilarious. I needed a good laugh.
Can anyone familiar with Anita Blake tell me if I need to flag it? The entry on it under Fetish Retardant seems problematic. It fits the trope well and I think I cleaned the entry sufficiently, but if the Shota sex scene is too explicit, then the work doesn't fit the new content policy.
edited 8th Jun '12 11:14:43 AM by encrypted12345
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Thought we weren't accepting entries from porn works any more, though? Because there's a fair few hentai doujins and the like on that page.
Yeah, I deleted those on the double check.
Huh, forgot a couple. Editing right now.
Miss World 96 Nude is still up in jury.
edited 8th Jun '12 11:30:15 AM by encrypted12345
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Anite Blake has a magic vagina! What should we do? Hhaha. I'd ask on the thread, folks.
