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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1: Apr 26th 2012 at 10:51:42 AM

Still not sure how these threads are working. But for the time being, I'd like to keep this discussion between the P5.

Monster Girl Quest is a porn game, there's no question about that. The battle mechanic involves the main character fighting off monster girls who are trying to rape him.

But the thing is, not only is the plot excellent, the porn is not. It's actually rather horrifying, most of the time. I can't imagine a giant scorpion girl was ever intended as anything but creepy as hell.

This isn't like Fate Stay Night. FSN got an anime adaptation which removed the sex scenes *

, and the plot still made perfect sense. Anything like that usually gets a free pass from me.

Monster Girl Quest makes no sense without the sex scenes. I'm sure someone could find a way to remove them without damaging the plot too much, but it would require major rewrites. But again, no one plays this game for the sex, because the sex is freaky creepy.

So, what to do? The page hasn't caused any problems so far, but I'd be willing to lock the page if that's what it takes to keep it. Of course, if everyone else disagrees with me, I'm not going to raise a fuss. It's got it's own wiki that the page can be shoved off to if we have no other choice.

This review summarizes what I just said from a slightly different perspective, and is a pretty good summary of what the fanbase in general thinks.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Apr 26th 2012 at 10:54:34 AM

My first impression on initial research was that it's irredeemable, but given your points I'll give it a second look. I'll get back to you later on after work today.

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Apr 26th 2012 at 2:57:26 PM

And no, it's porn. Do I find any of the multitude of explicit images a GI search came up with arousing? Of course not. But I'm sure plenty of people out there do, the same people who like tentacle porn. This is just monster girl porn. I vote devil-head.

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#4: Apr 26th 2012 at 4:33:31 PM
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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Apr 26th 2012 at 4:42:13 PM

nevermind

edited 26th Apr '12 5:51:35 PM by Martello

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#6: Apr 27th 2012 at 8:58:24 AM
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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7: Apr 27th 2012 at 9:00:11 AM

When the thread title says P5 only, it means P5 only. Let's respect their request, please. If you have something you feel you must say, use the Page Restoration Petitions thread.

edited 4th May '12 6:54:53 AM by lu127

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#8: Apr 28th 2012 at 2:33:00 PM

Hm, to be honest, I'm not too sure we can keep without, at the very minimum, a cleanup and some curation. From what I've seen, and heard from the two of you, this appears to be rather pornographic.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: May 4th 2012 at 9:02:41 PM

From the images I've been able to find, it looks like this game is definitely trying to play to the "shotacon" fetish. I'm not seeing much reason not to straight up cut it at this time.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#10: May 4th 2012 at 9:39:27 PM

The protagonist is of undetermined age, but over sixteen and under twenty-one. Probably eighteen. His appearance varies depending on which artist is drawing at the moment.

There are reasons to cut this, that other people have noted (obviously, I'm looking for a solution that doesn't end with that). Shota content isn't one of them.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: May 4th 2012 at 9:44:12 PM

Perhaps I'm mistaking fan art for official art, then? If anyone can point out some official artwork that clears up the "identifiable pre-pubescent" issue, I'd appreciate it.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#12: May 4th 2012 at 9:53:01 PM

Only found two SFW pics (in h-game tradition, there are basically zero pics of the guy). One is from the artist who draws everyone like that and the other is just his face. So I doubt that's helpful.

Again, there are plenty of things to discuss about this game without worrying about the art style. I mean, if that's your only gripe with it, then sure, but it doesn't seem that way.

edited 4th May '12 9:54:18 PM by Discar

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#13: May 4th 2012 at 10:04:39 PM

Eh, the art style doesn't bother me; it's that, just by Googling images pertaining to this work with the Safe Search Filter set on Moderate, I can't find a single SFW image for it...

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#14: May 4th 2012 at 10:08:29 PM

It's not the only problematic element of the game no, but the issue of the protagonist's apparent age would definitely make a difference between voting to straight up cut, or to look at a potential alternate solution.

I'll continue researching this, for now.

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#15: May 4th 2012 at 10:24:16 PM
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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#16: May 6th 2012 at 5:59:55 AM

So the game got three devilhead votes (I didn't vote, conflict of interest), and was closed up with recommended action being "cut." Is that the final consensus, or were the other two still researching?

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#17: May 6th 2012 at 6:35:38 AM

I voted devil head, but didn't close it out since I wasn't sure what disposition the others who voted wanted to take (cut versus clean and lock.)

For what it's worth, the amount of porn content as well as the nagging issue of potential for playing to the "shota" fetish made me ok with the cutting option, so I don't take issue with whoever closed it out.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#18: May 7th 2012 at 5:30:04 AM

Just to make sure (because I realised the thread is still open), you're certain this should be cut, right?

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#19: May 7th 2012 at 5:32:37 AM

I"m certain it should be. The sheer amount of pornographic is too much to ignore.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: May 7th 2012 at 5:42:44 AM

Yes.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#21: May 7th 2012 at 5:46:36 AM

Okay, making sure because unlike most other cuts, this one has a lot of material on our wiki and 3000 inbounds. Would like to preserve the latter, but I don't see how. Cutlisting.

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#22: May 7th 2012 at 5:49:18 AM

3,000 inbounds... meh? I hope we don't get backdrafted behind this...

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#23: May 7th 2012 at 5:50:33 AM

Wait, somebody said it's based on The Monster Girl Encyclopedia, which we decided to keep. Is that true? If it is, we could redirect it there and lock the redirect.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: May 7th 2012 at 6:10:00 AM

Looking at The Monster Girl Encyclopedia, that's not a page I expect to stick around much longer.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25: May 7th 2012 at 6:12:21 AM

It's already been voted and decided to be kept (I was the one who flagged it).

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