Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.
Common problems include:
- Conversation on the Main Page
- Flame Bait
- Squicky content
- Impossible in Real Life
Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. Please note that the purpose of this thread is to clean up and maintain real life sections, not raze them. Cutting should be treated as a last resort, so please only suggest cutting RL sections or a subset thereof you think the examples in question are completely unsalvageable.
If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread
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If you think a trope should be No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only, then this thread is the place to discuss it. However, please check Keep Real Life Examples first to see if it has already been brought up in the past. If not, state the reasons and add it to the crowner.
Before adding to the crowner:
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- There must be support from others in thread.
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- An ATT advert should be made as well (batch items together if more than one trope goes up in a day).
In order for a crowner to pass:
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- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
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- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page
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As per Real Life Troping, we never trope unscripted real life sports — so sports tropes where RL examples would only apply to those scenarios don't need a crowner vote.
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- Do not try to overturn previous No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only decisions without a convincing argument.
- As mentioned here
, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag no longer works. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. Per word of admin
as of 2025, any replacement for this system will not use markup, so these tags can be removed.
- If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
Hi
Done and done. Fill 'er up.
By the way, when closing out a crowner, please remember to update the Keep Real Life Examples page to note what (if any) nominations don't qualify for being made NRLEP.
I've updated the page up to the latest completed crowner, this is mostly for future reference.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpDoes Hellish Pupils really need a Real Life section? Seems to be mostly animals that have the pupils in question.
The trope specifically states that it's about people with "animal" pupils, which both incorporates animals by reference and makes them ineligible, since their pupils are natural and not indicative of some form of Evil.
This isn't a case of NRLEP as it a case of simple inapplicability.
edited 18th Jul '13 6:48:14 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I axed most of the Square Peg Round Trope examples and moved one to discussion.
On empty crossroads, seek the eclipse -- for when Sol and Lua align, the lost shall find their way home.Added Wizarding School. The 2 examples listed are Square Peg Round Trope, and there is no such thing as a Wizarding School.
Also, Burning the Flag was launched with a NRLEP tag. I argue that if Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment is followed there that it could have a RL section.
edited 20th Jul '13 1:20:25 PM by reub2000
I think the second Real Life example of Wizarding School is legitimate. It's about a rumour/reputation about schools being Wizarding Schools, which while it doesn't make those school actual Wizarding Schools, still means the trope is in play in popular consensus.
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There's room for that arguement. If you have a school that's big on privacy and secret (trade) knowledge and what not, then it's possible someone might think there was something supernatural going on. On the other hand,I checked the real life section and there's only one sentence. Unless we can get more there, I don't see the problem either way.
Not a problem = No need to fix it.
The problematic example was removed by Catbert.
But overall, I don't see having shoehorned examples as a reason to set it to No Real Life Examples by that alone. If it's too much to be handled it's one thing, but if you can trim off the bad apples and have it look good, it's not a problem that needs this solution.
edited 22nd Jul '13 7:44:38 AM by AnotherDuck
Check out my fanfiction!The trope was nominated because like most of the other magic based tropes, it's impossible in Real Life.
Playing with a trope is very much possible even if the trope itself isn't. So no, it's not impossible to have a real life example of the trope.
Check out my fanfiction!Can we please restore Real Life examples to More Dakka and Pyrrhic Victory? The edit war CAN'T be that recent, can it?
David Bowie 1947-2016Also, Walking Out on the Show is marked as NRLEP, but i think we could theoretically make one with a short blurb or such.
edited 24th Jul '13 9:39:21 AM by SmytheOrdo
David Bowie 1947-2016More Dakka has a real life section. It's just labeled as "Other". *face palm*
@Another Duck: By "playing with" you mean creating malicious gossip? It's not an example of a Wizarding School. Other tropes related to magic have meet the chainsaw, I don't see why this one is any different.
edited 24th Jul '13 9:53:53 PM by reub2000
Then Walking Out on the Show would have to be Trivia and overhauled to make the real life examples prominent; a discussion that belongs in the Trope Repair Shop. I'd have to check, but I think it was declared NRLEP over complaining.
"When this happens in Real Life, it is very much an Audience Reaction (and thus no Real Life examples should be added)."
Edit: I think it would be appropriate to limit it to In Universe Examples Only than No Real Life Examples Please. That's how the warning is written.
edited 24th Jul '13 10:00:24 PM by MikuruFan
Let's put it this way. According to the rumours, it is an example. Rumours are stories which may or may not be true. You could file it under a different folder that Real Life, though.
Check out my fanfiction!"Rumo(u)rs" is really just another way of saying "gossip", once you get past the nitpicky fine details. Quite a few NRLEP entries are listed because the wiki isn't for gossiping about RL organizations/people, so I don't see why Wizarding School should get any special treatment in that regard.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpConsidering the supernatural nature, I'd rather consider it a myth than gossip. Much like Nessie.
Check out my fanfiction!- No Real Life Examples Please - A trope is too sensitive, impossible, or People Sit on Chairs in real life to have examples.
- In Universe Examples Only - An objective trope can easily become a YMMV item or Audience Reaction due to misuse or complaining and is limited to objective In-Universe examples.
This distinction blurs in tropes that have potential for trivia: the examples would be in the real life production of a work, but they are kept off because it could be misused or used as complaining.
Crown Description:
Vote UP to cut real life examples; vote DOWN to keep. Anything marked DONE has been resolved. In order for a crowner to pass:- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
- Once passed, tropes must be indexed on the appropriate NRLEP or LRLEO index
- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page
