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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
I think those are fine changes.
Since Bulungi, Qurac, and Ruritania are all NRLEP, why not their Central American cousin Banana Republic? All of them are also specifically about fictional, so I'd argue that Banana Republic is not only a Stereotype trope but also a Narrative one as well.
But it is also a stereotype, and "Fictional" is the first word of its Laconic.
Edited by MissConduct on Sep 6th 2022 at 8:37:02 AM
The only quibble I would have with that, is that Banana Republic is a real life thing
. It's derived from the United Fruit Company's control over several Central American countries, and is used as a shorthand for countries who's resources are controlled by foreign companies.
Why We Cant Have Nice Things doesn't have any red flags for me as a concept, but some of its RL examples have problems. Here's my attempt at a small cleanup. Any opinions?
- Everyone, just pretty much everyone who happens to be an Innocent Bystander can be the exact reason for this trope and the prime harbinger of why some are either Born Lucky or Born Unlucky, as each action is simply be a Spanner in the Works that drives your life in every way. And neither side will actually notice until it is too late. General, cut.
- Part of the reason why photos of Osama bin Laden's corpse will not be released to the public is because of fears that it will be used as Garbage Post Kid bait. The more Internet savvy or just Internet-visible have long been struggling to keep both good and bad material related to themselves off the Internet due to G.I.F.T Sometimes it works, usually it doesn't, and sometimes it has the opposite effect. First sentence seems fine, everything after is general and needs to be cut.
- There are many people who own large stretches of wilderness, which they leave open to the public for outdoor activities... until one too many people leave big piles of litter, have loud parties late at night, tear up the ground with four-wheelers, etc, and next thing you know the NO TRESPASSING signs are up. General, cut
- This is what happened at the Pulgas Water Temple
in California, long cherished by meditators and quiet LSD trippers. It used to be 24/7/365. Now it has strictly enforced hours. Currently natter as it is, could be made into its own entry with expanded context.
- This is what happened at the Pulgas Water Temple
- The September 11th terrorist attacks are the reason why security at airports and other major travel venues are so jacked up that the process of getting on board the plane can take longer than the actual flight.
- Conflicts like World War II left a lot of this kind of thing. This is currently commented out as a ZCE, but it's also general and thus should be cut entirely.
- Teachers in many schools may sometimes reward their class (candy, no homework, etc.) if the entire class is on their best behavior. There will usually be one or two children that misbehaves (usually out of ignorance and not ill will), causing the teacher to revoke the reward for the entire class, which also causes the class to now scowl at the troublemakers for screwing everyone out of the reward. This method of reward versus punishment tend to be very difficult to implement on very young children since they do not fully grasp the concept of consequences or how their actions can affect other people. This and its sub-bullets are all general, cut.
- This one got a bit rougher when the crusade against bullying was in full-swing. Since the troublemaker ruined the chance for the entire class, if they weren't the bully themselves then often they'd be bullied for screwing it up. The natural shockwave of this was for most teachers to stop handing out class-wide rewards entirely.
- This form of discipline is common enough in the armed forces as well, especially in training, leading many to make the cynical observation that the military takes a group of motivated adults, tasked with the responsibility of fighting to the death for their nation's interests, and treats them like a classroom full of schoolchildren. At least in the military, the reasoning can be made that one person's mistake (whether in combat, or while representing his unit or country when dealing with civilian populations) can cause widespread problems for everyone else, even without a reward at stake.
- Speaking of schools, many high schools used to allow students who drove to get lunch off campus as long as they arrived on time for their next class. This led to problems like cutting class, car accidents, and bringing contraband onto school grounds. Furthermore, school violence and drug issues make violations of said bans a much larger deal than they would have otherwise been. The offenders will often have their car (and themselves) searched thoroughly and will be interrogated by school officials about their whereabouts. General, cut.
- Ordering food on the Internet (whether take out or groceries) is extremely convenient, but some people have abused online ordering by ordering only one item, like a stick of gum or one serving of french fries. In order to save time and money being wasted, many establishments now either impose a minimum delivery total or charge a penalty fee for small tickets. General, cut.
- Fast food restaurants used to be able to serve absurdly large serving sizes (for example, McDonald's infamous Super Size) until people started to sue the fast food corporations for making them fat. Many eateries now don't go beyond the size of "large". General, cut. An entry based specifically on the MC Donalds example could be made.
- Food stores and supermarkets tend to give out free samples of a food product to entice the customer to buy said product. Usually, there is no limit on how many samples one person can take, so there will always be at least one guy that takes most or all of the samples for themselves and/or friends while leaving nothing for the next customer. The store responds by either cutting back on samples or stops giving them out completely in order to save on costs. Another method is to have somebody personally handing out the samples, though this still means less, since they can only afford to have a live person doing it every so often. General, cut.
- Small Creators on Youtube can no longer monetize(ie make money off of) their videos on Youtube thanks to controversies created by larger Content Creators such as Logan Paul and Pewdiepie, who get off with only a slap on the wrist. Due to the rise of trolls and hate speech popping up in the comments sections, advertisers are pulling out from the Youtube platform since they don't want to be associated with channels that have users spewing hate speech openly. Youtube's solution to the mess? Demonitize the offending videos if the creator doesn't put a lid on the abusive behavior from their users. This in turn caused many content creators to simply disable comments on their videos to avoid losing money, so now no one gets to have any form of discussion. General and complain-y, cut.
- The Athens 2004 torch relay was the first Olympic torch relay to travel internationally to every continent instead of just the usual relay routine. The following Beijing 2008 torch relay did the same thing, but quickly became infamous for being heavily sabotaged by Pro-democracy, Pro-Tibet, and other Anti-Chinese government protesters. This reached the point that many legs of the relay degenerated into confrontations of the relay by said protesters and many legs of the relay were shortened and otherwise altered (see the Wikipedia article for more details
. Note that most other torch relay articles are mainly just about the paths they took.). This more or less killed any chances of there being another international torch relay. Looks fine.
- Speaking of the Olympic Games, Munich 1972 opened with this kind of thing
and a sweet spirit of lighthearted celebration intended to wipe out the evil memories of the "Nazi Games" and look forward to a future of universal brotherhood. Of course, this happened
- a group of terrorists known as Black September were able to take hostage and kill athletes from the Israeli team. Ironically, part of the reason the terrorists were able to get in in the first place was that Olympic Village security didn't want to be fascists and responding to complaints of "Gestapo tactics" by both athletes and journalists had relaxed their rules, especially at night. The terrorists just pretended to be more drunken Americans climbing the fence after hours. Natter, and doesn't actually explain how it's an example of the trope. Cut.
- Speaking of the Olympic Games, Munich 1972 opened with this kind of thing
- Areas and buildings that are historical are usually allowed to have tourists take a look at them for educational values. All it takes is one person to do something stupid, like defiling a piece of art or scribbling doodles in a 3000 year old Egyptian pyramid
, that causes the staff to clamp down on how close people can get to the historical artifacts. General, cut. Sub-bullets focusing on specific examples could be made into their own entries.
- There's a reason El Castillo (that large pyramid temple in Chichen Itza) is now closed off to tourists.
- How close does slapping your dick against the Taj Mahal
come to this trope?
- Popular movies and TV shows with exterior shots of iconic homes become a tourist pilgrimage for fans traveling far to visit the real life location. Usually, they are privately owned residences. Current homeowners do welcome tourists flocking to take pictures, but may end up restricting by installing fences and signs if they are fed up with littering and trespassing. An example is The Goonies house in Astoria, Oregon where the homeowner draped her house in tarp due to the influx of tourists during the film's 30th anniversary. This extends to popular anime and video games with settings inspired by real life neighborhoods and landmarks in remote locations. General, cut. Goonies example could be made into its own entry.
- Midnight Rider, an infamously Troubled Production, may meet this fate due to the on-set death of camera assistant Sarah Jones by train
. For the rest of his life, Gregg Allman didn't want to share his story with moviegoers anymore due to the incident
, which was labelled an act of criminal negligence on the part of the filmmakers. Seems fine, but needs to be written to avoid sounding speculative.
- Any chance for a wide release of The Interview ended up becoming a casualty of the Massive Sony Hack of '14, perpetrated by the terrorist organization Guardians of Peace (which has been alleged to have ties with the film's target, the DPRK, but is more likely to have been merely a disgruntled former employee looking for revenge). Seems fine.
- Moderators on the Steam forums can no longer edit anyone's posts due to one too many game developers and abusive moderators altering peoples' posts to silence criticism against them or the games. While more level headed moderators would edit posts so that they don't have to delete the post or lock the thread outright, now they have to delete posts/threads or lock threads with no middle ground. Seems fine.
- This has, of course, just caused abusive moderators to lock and delete threads they don't like, making the change rather pointless. Complain-y natter, cut.
- More events are now checking bags because of so many shootings in the United States. Regal Cinemas started checking any bags brought into the theaters in Summer 2015.
General, cut along with natter-y sub-bullets.
- Or, at least, that was what they said they were going to do. But it's either not being enforced anymore or only being selectively/randomly enforced.
- Even occurring to venues elsewhere around the world implementing bag checks due to recent terrorist attacks and the fears.
- Multiple news stories appeared in 2015 that fit squarely into this trope. Among others, the West Point Pillow Fight, meant as a time of amusement and harmless fun for cadets
, which turned bloody due to a number of "participants" putting helmets in their pillow cases, causing numerous injuries. General, cut. Pillow Fight could be made into its own entry.
- In the US, gun control is very divisive, because too many gun owners come off as this. The response among the 3D printing community and the pro gun community to the invention of the Liberator Pistol can be described as less "that'll show em" and more "you're gonna make em take away our rights". The Liberator is the first gun made almost entirely out of 3D printed components note , and essentially functions as a single shot close range gun. Gun fans and 3D printers were worried that this development would cause the governments of the world to crack down on both industries, fears that weren't at all alleviated when a group of reporters managed to get an (unloaded) Liberator within throwing distance of the Prime Minister of Israel. Seems fine, but could be condensed a bit.
- In Spring 2016, Playboy's magazines stopped featuring nude photos due to the rampant upswing of Internet pornography making nudes passé. They were forced to backtrack after a year, however, because their sales tanked. Nude models are Playboy's main draw, love it or hate it; they're pretty much stuck with it. Seems fine.
- Public restrooms. They may be called "public," but, of course, people expect a certain amount of privacy, i.e. closed stalls and not having stuff like cameras monitoring it because that would just be creepy. Unfortunately, this, of course, means that they're sometimes used by the seedy elements for stuff like doing drugs, conducting other Black Market transactions, etc., as well as being a frequent target for indiscriminate vandalism. If enough people do this, they sometimes end up just getting closed down. General, cut.
- Some business, such as stores and banks, sometimes simply choose not to operate in areas riddled with a lot of crime. (Though, in some cases, this may be only one excuse.) This, of course, leads to a vicious cycle because people in those areas either have to go out of their way to get what they need, or end up paying more for stuff they can barely afford. See food desert
. General, cut.
- Enrico Caruso got one after his death in 1921. Initially his body was displayed in a glass case in the Cimitero di Santa Maria del Piantonote in Naples. Most visitors were very respectful. However, the cemetery has no bathrooms. In 1929, his widow Dorothy ordered the tomb sealed. Seems fine.
- The guitar makers of C.F. Martin & Co. gave an authentic 1870s guitar to be used in The Hateful Eight. But upon learning that the real guitar was destroyed during filming rather than one of the doubles, they decided to stop lending their guitars to film productions
. Seems fine.
- This is why music players like phones are usually banned during tests, due to one too many cheating students abusing them for the sake of being told the answers through them. General, cut.
- Hitchhiking
has been virtually dead in the U.S.
for many years, thanks to "stranger danger" warnings and too many actual incidents where either the hitcher or the hitchee was the victim of robbery, rape, murder or all three. In Canada, some techies created Hitchbot
, a robot with a camera, a Twitter feed, and AI, to see if humans could care for robots. She was supposed to be transported by whoever found her and left in some public place for the next person to find. In the summer of 2014 she traveled across Canada from Halifax to Victoria, then visited Germany and the Netherlands. When her creators updated her a bit and sent her to hitchhike through the United States, she ended up being stripped and decapitated in Philedelphia. General, cut.
- Because of a few inconsiderate people who feel that it's OK to trash hotel rooms, pee in the hallway, write graffiti, harass other congoers, harass people who are at the hotel for other reasons, throw loud parties, etc., hotels will refuse to host Fan Conventions. Or else they'll jack up the cost of the rooms, which in turn causes the price of con tickets to go up. So, please. Be considerate when you go to a con. Otherwise, you may find that you don't have a con to go to. General, cut. Second sub-bullet could be made into its own entry.
- Particularly notable is the Homestuck fandom. It's fun to cosplay as one of the Trolls, but then hotels got stuck with trying to clean the smears of gray body-paint all over the walls, doors, and bedsheets. At least one place had to unclog their hot tub after con-goers decided to jump in while in full costume!
- The Internet Historian goes over the fall Rainfurrest in this video
. The things some of the con-goers did to get the con banned can only be described as Crosses the Line Twice. However in the Q&A, IH also notes that the event organizers are partially to blame as they little to nothing to curb degenerate behavior over years, to the point where a few individuals felt they could behave, well, like animals. Still a few individuals, and an internal saboteur, ruined it for everybody.
- There used to be a longstanding policy among continental European hotels and lodgings to not rent to English football fans due to (justified) fears of hooliganism. Seems fine.
- In September 2016, the Alphabet-funded linknyc Internet kiosks set up in public Manhattan sidewalks and other popular metro areas in the state were stripped of their internet browser capabilities when too many pedestrians used it for porn. Seems fine.
- The insurance company Esurance abruptly discontinued their highly popular "Erin Esurance" series of ads in 2010, in part because people on the internet wouldn't stop making
porn of the character. Seems fine.
- After the 2015 NHL Draft, where teams openly tried to lose games to get a better shot at hyped prospects Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel,Background the league changed the rules of the lottery to involve three separate lotteries for the top three picks. Two years later, the last-place Colorado Avalanche, who amassed 48 points without even trying to tank, were screwed over by the process when they dropped to the fourth pick, infuriating fans of the team. Seems fine.
- Atoms For Peace, an Eisenhower administration pet project, gave nuclear reactors to developing countries to start their own nuclear power projects and help boost their economies. Nearly all the recipient countries tried to make nuclear weapons with these reactors and two of them (India and Pakistan) succeeded. Gives the setup, but doesn't fully match the trope definition.
- Go to the No Real Life Examples, Please! section on This Very Wiki and you will see a lot of examples of why we can't have nice real life examples, especially because of some people just couldn't resist Flame Bait. Locked pages often also qualify. General, cut.
- According to Shattered, a book about the 2016 campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton, the phrase "We're not allowed to have nice things" became a "dark mantra" of the campaign as it was continually buffeted by stuff such as the FBI announcements about e-mail investigations, the Wikileaks dumps, etc. General, cut.
- Ultra Music Festival, a music festival for Electronic Music, implemented an adults-only policy for 2015 onwards after two incidents occurred at the Miami venue in 2014. There was a 21-year-old who died of a drug overdose, as well as a security guard getting critically injured after a mob broke a gate and trampled her which resulted in dozens of arrests. Seems fine.
- Depending on your definition of what a "nice thing" entails, the U.S. State Department has decided to ban all Americans from traveling as tourists to North Korea following the death of Otto Warmbier in June of 2017.
Warmbier had been traveling with a tourist group, when he allegedly decided to take down a propaganda poster in his hotel room, a crime that earned him a 15-year hard labor sentence in early 2016 and ultimately cost him his life. Seems fine.
- A crisps company in the UK held a promotion where they invited people to upload selfies to be used in a humorous fashion by a sports newscaster and the winner would score some sporting event tickets. Predictably, the internet sent in photos of terrorists, dictators, pedohphiles, and other criminals. The company ended the contest. Seems fine.
- For more than a century, the American outdoor retailer L.L.Bean, founded in 1912, offered a lifetime guarantee on all products it sold—offering refunds even without a purchase receipt. However, in the mid-2010s, certain customers began abusing the policy, returning products bought from third parties (such as yard sales) or effectively turning the policy into a lifetime replacement program. The company announced in February 2018 that returns would only be accepted from one year after purchase, and that proof of purchase would be required for any returns. Seems fine.
- Service animals, like seeing eye dogs, and dogs that are certified to provide emotional support to people who really need it like Service-people who have come from overseas, are very useful and are usually allowed to follow their person around everywhere. Following a series of incidents
where people have labeled their (sometimes untrained) pet as an "emotional support animal" that have resulted in people getting bitten in airplanes, or running amok in the cabin, airlines have considered banning such animals from flying in the passenger cabin, or at least increase the scrutiny of the animals allowed to come aboard, including well trained, legitimate service animals that are essential for the well being of those who need them. General, cut.
- A concern with "Safe Spaces," such as gay bars. If too many people from outside the marginalized group it was set up for come in, it loses its purpose. Recently, women's interest magazines have suggested that (straight) women go to gay bars, so that they can be free to drink and dance without being hit on by creepy, sometimes Jerkass men who won't take "no" for an answer. The problem is that some of these women (not all, but enough that it's a real problem) Come to Gawk and act like obnoxious Yaoi Fangirls, or go to check of a "progressive" or "ally" or "good person" box they may not actually be entitled to check off. Not only that, but a lot of the creepy straight men these women were trying to get away from have caught onto this, and come to gay bars to pick up women...and can be obnoxious (or even cruel and violent) towards gay men there. This leads to the LGBTQ+ people the bar was meant for avoiding it, because the whole point of this place was to avoid being ogled or being given dirty looks/rude comments/violence/etc. There can be legitimate reasons for a straight person to go to these places: being invited by an LGBTQ+ friend or relative, acting as moral support or a wingperson for someone who wishes it, or seeing a performer such as a comedian or a band, but you do have to respect the space and the people in it, and don't make it a regular thing. (Remember, you are a guest, and guests can wear out their welcome.) And if you're using someone else's safe space as an unrelated safe space for you and your friends, then either set up your own space, or be content with drinking at home or at restaurants instead of bars and nightclubs. General, cut.
- This is a common reaction when someone's cat breaks something. General, cut.
- Tumblr was no stranger to pornography, but the site did very little about it since for the most part, there was no harm to it. Thanks to the people who used Tumblr to upload child pornography and related material, Google and Apple banned the Tumblr app from their storefront and in the end of 2018, Tumblr prohibited pornography of all kinds. The ban on porn also harmed many artists who made a living selling nude art and/or pornographic art and even non porn artists had their works tagged as pornography by Tumblr's algorithms. The changed cause many people to do a mass logout protests while others deleted their Tumblr accounts. Not general, but could have the last two sentences chopped off to be less complain-y. Sub-bullets could be turned into their own examples.
- This is also what happened to Usenet, which counts as one of the first internet social media or discussion sites.note Usenet was once accessible through any computer and you could set your email client to subscribe to and download your favorite newsgroups. It was an extremely useful service for uncensored discussions of all kinds for free. Ripped-off binaries, child pornography, pirated material and other illegally encoded stuff caused most internet providers to stop Usenet service. Usenet was bought by Google and is now called Google Groups, a mere shadow of its former vibrant self. Other services allow you to access Usenet via paid subscription.
- Pornhub had a similar situation to Tumblr. After it came to light that a lot of the anonymous user-submitted content featured pedophilia and human trafficking victims, there was basically no way to sort it out and they nuked everything but verified accounts.
- Before the 1980s, in France, lawyers used to be able to visit their clients in prison without being searched by the warden. After an escaping inmate shot a guard with a gun which had been handed to him by his lawyer Brigitte Hemmerlin, all lawyers were to be searched before entering. Seems fine.
- This is what happens in condos where at least one owner or tenant doesn't pay his dues: there's less and less money available to fix issues or improve the building and, as a result, everyone there suffers. General, cut.
- Countries with widespread tax fraud have less money available to improve the infrastructures and the public services, harming everyone. General, cut both main and sub-bullet.
- The same is of course true when taxes are cut, especially when they are cut for top earners. Top earners meanwhile don't care. Potholes? Use the helicopter. Crappy schools? Send the kids to private boarding schools. Rampant crime? Hide behind the walls of a gated community...
- The practice of gentrification. Real-estate developers come in intending to revitalize a neighborhood (often one that is low-income and/or populated mainly by minorities). They do that by putting in high-end luxury apartments, condos, and townhouses, which no one that lives in this neighborhood can afford. That leads to landlords jacking up their rent costs in an attempt to compete. Additionally, mom-and-pop stores are replaced with chain stores and high-end department stores, leading to less economic opportunity. As a result, people that once lived in this neighborhood (many that built a unique community culture and repoire with their neighbors) end up having to pack up and move, because they can no longer afford the rent costs and their small businesses can no longer compete with the bigger ones moving in. General, cut.
- Said word for word at the 4:35 mark of this video.
The video talks about how in Disneyland's, Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge, restaurants had to stop giving out individual menus to diners, instead giving a party one menu to look at, switched from a stainless steel spork (with a Star Wars aesthetic) to regular plastic cutlery, and may even implement extra security as a way to help stop park goers from stealing these items and selling them over the internet. Seems fine.
- A local New York City newspaper disabled comments on their articles posted on their website. The staff said that it was costing them money to have moderators and algorithms deleting offending comments over and over (with no results) from people being nasty towards each other and the people in the articles. Said people even harassed and threatened people that were victims of crime and even those who were still in high school. The harassment caused people that had information for a news story to not come forward because they didn't want to deal with people looking up their names and location and harassing them. Seems fine, but could go with the newspaper actually being indentified.
- People who make false rape/sexual harassment charges. The alleged victim would be either looking for sympathy, out to destroy a person's life out of spite, or simply out of a twisted since of humor. All the same, someone's life is usually ruined even if the falsehood comes to light, but with every faker discovered, it becomes harder and harder to take these cases seriously, because the question is 'did the attacker have ill intent, or does the victim think this is a game?' Was commented out, but is general and should be cut.
- The Body Positivity movement. It was intended to help people with physical deformities, either due to injury or born with them, or people who otherwise didn't have the 'ideal' body shape to feel better about themselves. People took the 'a bit of chunk is no big deal' and used it to justify sitting around, eating junkfood and generally just not taking care of themselves. Cut to the 2010s in which the group has re-branded itself the 'Fat Acceptance' movement, preaching about how not stuffing one's face with cake and candy is what they call 'fatphobic', as are any other words against them, despise doctors to the point of vilifying them and throw around 'skinny bitches' as a general insult. Was commented out, but is general and should be cut.
- The National Emergency Library fell victim to this
. The Internet Archive, which managed the library, decided to close it two weeks early because of a concerted attack by a quartet of commercial publishers. Seems fine.
- During the COVID-19 outbreak, many local businesses enforced a rule that all customers need to wear masks in order to protect each other and the staff, if their state or municipality did not already require them to do so. Due to many people being anti-mask for various reasons, those people verbally and physically assaulted employees over the masks rules. One business temporarily closed down
to protect its employees from the very irate customers that were throwing things and using racial slurs when they were told to wear a mask. Another business also had to shut down (after one day of reopening to boot) due to their customers also refusing to wear masks and harass the employees
. The shutdowns not only affected the employees' livelihoods, but also screws over the nicer customers that just wanted to get food to eat. General, cut.
- In 2016, the Rockville, MD Hooters closed and gave up its liquor license
after Luis Gustavo Reluzco drove away from the Hooters after drinking heavily there. Reluzco then struck and killed Officer Noah Leotta. The restaurant was forced to close because one the Hooter Girls continued to serve him while he was drunk. Seems fine.
- In 2011, a man named Lawrence Russell Brewer
was executed. Before he was executed, he was allowed to request a last meal, and he requested two chicken fried steaks, a triple-meat bacon cheeseburger, fried okra, a pound of barbecue, three fajitas, a meat lover's pizza, a pint of ice cream, and a slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts. The problem was, he didn't eat any of it. As a result, Texas did away with bespoke last meal requests for its death row inmates. Seems fine.
- According to this video
, back in Sweden in the 1960s this person's grandfather bought a monkey from a sailor that came into his shop one day. After being locked up in its cage for several months, the monkey attacked and severely wounded its owner when it was finally let out, and the police were called in to deal with the situation, but after they couldn't capture it, they shot and killed it. A few months after the incident, no charges were filed as he had committed no real crimes, so the Swedish government created new laws that banned any animal that could be classified as an exotic pet within its national borders. Seems fine.
- Throughout history, there have been stories of initially peaceful protests where violence/vandalism broke out, either because some of the protestors themselves get out of hand (Type 2) or as a deliberate action by outside agitators to discredit the protests (Type 1). This can lead to governments/law enforcement cracking down on the entire protest, even if many/most of the protestors were just peacefully marching and not doing anything wrong. General, cut.
- The Pokémon trading cards were always popular among collectors. In 2021 due to various factors like people trying to sell the cards online for a high price, stores were frequently sold out and people would get into fights against each other since both parties wanted the cards for themselves. The affected stores tried to limit the cards to only one pack per customer, but when that didn't work, they temporarily stopped selling them completely. Everyone else that just wanted the cards to play with or to give to their children was screwed over. A similar phenomenon occurred when McDonald's bundled Pokemon cards with their happy meals where scalpers would buy said happy meals in large amounts just to get the cards, leaving none for actual customers. Undecided on. A specific time is listed, but not a super-specific event.
- Due to vandalism -and practicality, as it's much easier to clean plain plastic-, padded seats often present on some public transport systems were often replaced by less comfortable ones of either plastic or sturdier design. Same for features often present on them as USB chargers, lighting and AC grids over each seat, etc. that are broken and left so due to vandals messing with them. General, cut.
- Being employed or volunteering in institutions that work with children (schools, churches, sports teams, entertainment centers for children) used to be as easy as filling out an application or sign up sheet. Thanks to abuse scandals, this is no longer the case. Most positions of this sort will now require lengthy background checks and training classes which can take months to process. In some cases it can even apply when the position doesn’t involve working with children, such as serving refreshments after a church service. General, cut.
I'll wait at least two days, and I'll cut/keep anything that doesn't have any dissenting opinions.
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My thoughts;
- The 9/11 one needs to be cut, I think it's way too general
- The McDonalds needs cutting, the super size meals are not a "nice thing" in my book
- The Olympic torch relay examples needs cutting as subsequent torch relays have been run without incident
- The gun control one needs cutting, both for ROCEJ reasons and because it's not clear what the "nice" thing is and also not clear what we can't have ...
- The Pokemon one is weird, because it's not clear what was taken away (are the cards no longer being sold?), because a temporary pause in selling isn't the trope
Otherwise I agree with your assessments
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meRecycled In Space is nothing but subjective comparisons and literal stuff in space. Crowner?
I mean it's literally its point as a JFF page. Any major problem with RecycledInSpace.Real Life?
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupDoes Ultimate Job Security need a spot in an upcoming crowner? There are some general examples and the sheer amount points towards "too common".
I would agree it's too common, we had a similar vote not too long ago on Vetinari Job Security, which failed, but the same reasoning applies: It's way too common, too nattery and the section keeps growing.
I am adding Husky Russkie to the crowner for Gossip and Stereotypes.
Edited by Mechanicalman450 on Sep 6th 2022 at 9:00:33 AM
1. We generally don't like adding things unilaterally to the crowner here until there's at least some discussion on it, and 2. The crowner should generally top out at ~15 tropes at one time, can these tropes wait until next crowner? (I will agree that Husky Ruskie should get crownered, but next time)
Edited by MissConduct on Sep 6th 2022 at 4:04:29 AM
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please, please stop making unilateral moves, cuts, and additions. this thread has a reputation for being too harsh on RLEs and you are contributing to the problem. if you want to suggest something be NRLEP, do it right.
voting Nay on Husky Russkie as it was not discussed.
Edited by ChloeJessica on Sep 6th 2022 at 1:09:36 AM
It literally says it on the crowner rules, but... yeah.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallOkay so let's discuss Husky Russkie. I believe it should qualify under NRLEP due to being a stereotype. What do the rest of you think?
Edited by Mechanicalman450 on Sep 6th 2022 at 9:18:12 AM
Non-mods can add stuff to the crowner, but it has to be thoroughly discussed first, and you need to include the date you add it to know if it's been a week on the crowner.
Next crowner (which if we hold off on the ones you just added can start on the 9th) is looking like:
1. It Can't Be Helped (dialogue trope and thus too common, attracting ROCEJ violations and complaining) we missed this one a while ago!
2. All Love Is Unrequited (narrative trope, technically not possible that all love is unrequited, attracting misuse of the "you've probably had this happen to you before" variety)
3. Missing Episode (narrative trope as RL doesn't have "episodes", attracting misuse)
4. Wham Shot (narrative trope, related to the NRLEP Wham Episode and Wham Line)
5. Creepy Good (morality trope)
6. Evil Brunette Twin (^)
7. Face of a Thug (^^)
8. Bad Humor Truck (^^^)
9. Reformed, but Rejected (morality, impossible in the same way 0% Approval Rating is impossible)
10. Can't You Read the Sign? (narrative trope, "signs being posted for important reasons" is too common, attracting misuse as "wacky signs" is not this trope)
11. Mum Looks Like a Sister (attractiveness trope, somewhat gossipy)
12. Banana Republic (national stereotype, Laconic insists that the trope is only for fictional countries, related to NRLEP fictional nations like Ruritania)
13. Ultimate Job Security (too common)
14. Husky Russkie (national stereotype)
Maybe Pariah Prisoner? It did get a cleanup but there's still an arguement to make that it's too common and a little gossipy.
Lastly, we never crownered the The Alleged Car and Crappy Carnival situations, to make them totally NRLEP or to move their sections to Darth Wiki or So Bad, It's Horrible or leave them as they are.
In total, including Pariah Prisoner and two options apiece for The Alleged Car and Crappy Carnival, that's 19. I think the Sept. 9 crowner is looking pretty full. I'd say anything introduced from here on out will have to go on the crowner after that, which could start the earliest on Sept. 16.
Edited by MissConduct on Sep 6th 2022 at 4:26:37 AM
I edited out the options that were added without discussion. ~Mechanicalman 450 since this is an issue you have previously been suspended for, I highly suggest reading up on the rules and observing how things are done before mucking about.
Is Husky Russkie currently causing any problems? I'm not sure it needs to be crownered if it is
HAPPY HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA
Crown Description:
Vote UP to cut real life examples; vote DOWN to keep. Anything marked DONE has been resolved. In order for a crowner to pass:- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
- Once passed, tropes must be indexed on the appropriate NRLEP or LRLEO index
- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page

I want to bring attention to my earlier post
reagarding past life memories, to see if there is anymore thoughts on them?
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me