Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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- As mentioned here
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- The [[noreallife]] tag no longer works. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. Per word of admin
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- If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
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The Trauma Conga Line Real Life folder is large and a mess. For sure, all the general examples and real life troped examples can go. There are also things such as countries being troped, which seems like shoehorning.
We can try crownering it also. I'm fine with that.
It's actually already on the crowner and by the looks of things, it's going to keep its real life examples unless things change drastically. That doesn't mean we can't clean the folder though
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 16th 2022 at 9:24:46 AM
Macron's notes~BoltDMC, You need to enter the wikiword (part URL). Try ThePollyanna/RealLife. If that fails I'll try myself.
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this can't be right. trauma conga line, as i already said, is a narrative trope. it shouldn't have a real life example section in the first place.
Edited by namra on Jun 17th 2022 at 3:48:50 AM
Not everything goes the way we want on crowners. If a majority of people who voted want Trauma Conga Line to keep its real life examples, then we have to abide by that. After a a few months have past, we can try crownering it again.
That being said, the crowner isn't stable and didn't like it can be called tomorrow anyways. We can give it a few more days to see how things progress.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 17th 2022 at 6:57:11 AM
Macron's notesIs it a narrative trope? The description does talk a lot about the narrative impact, but the trope boils down to "character goes through a lot of trauma in a short time".
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallYeah, It's a characterization trope about how a character multiple trauma's in a short period of time and it affects them. I wouldn't say it's a narrative trope.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 17th 2022 at 6:56:05 AM
Macron's notesAnd those can still be cut, which is why we're saying to clean the folder.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallTropes that get NRLEP'd for being narrative tropes usually get listed because they are meta tropes and make no sense in a real life context. All tropes are narrative tropes, really, but some can work in a real life context as they are inspired by reality.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.I disagree with the crowner not being able to be called tomorrow, per this rule:
This crowner option is so far below that that I don't see it going any way other than KRLE. Besides, the one-week minimum we give to options in this thread is already longer than what we give to most TRS crowners.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 17th 2022 at 11:13:05 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.I probably misread that somehow then.
I'll just call it now since it's the 18th.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 17th 2022 at 12:27:08 PM
Macron's notesAgain, the crowner chose to not mark the trope as NRLEP. Being a characterization or narrative trope is a reason to want a trope's real life section pulled but it can't justify a blanket ban because we don't operate that way. If the real life folder needs cleaning feel free to do that but otherwise please let this issue go. If the real life is still a problem 1-2 months down the line, we can re-crowner Trauma Conga Line.
Macron's notesAnd to answer the question, there's no real reason to blanket ban character tropes since most of them are just personality traits or things characters go through, all of which are possible IRL.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallWas going to add a sentence to NoRealLife.Gossip And Stereotypes:
- Mean Character, Nice Actor — Also carries the unfortunate implication that any person who plays a villain or jerk who isn't listed on this page is by default a jerk.
Edited by Albert3105 on Jun 18th 2022 at 1:09:02 PM
Regarding troping real life people, Lord Gro took a chainsaw to the Johannes Brahms page not long ago, removing all but two examples from it. I brought up the issue at ATT back then asking if that was okay, especially given that among the things cut were entries that troped Brahms’s music career. There was overwhelmingly positive support for what Lord Gro did, and I was literally the only poster who had an issue with it. At the time, it was stated that only works themselves can be troped on creator pages.
Unless we put all those examples back, I can’t see any basis for troping real life people themselves.
Edited by BoltDMC on Jun 19th 2022 at 4:46:38 AM
Battleaxe Nurse is a morality trope about abusive, if not downright evil, nurses. It still allows for real life examples.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Jun 19th 2022 at 5:04:15 AM
Once Upon A Time.
Crown Description:
Vote UP to cut real life examples; vote DOWN to keep. Anything marked DONE has been resolved. In order for a crowner to pass:- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
- Once passed, tropes must be indexed on the appropriate NRLEP or LRLEO index
- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page

Handsome Lech has a Real Life folder that tropes five real life people as if they were fictional. Cut.
Accidental Pervert has a Real Life folder that mostly tropes real life people as if they were fictional. There are also general examples and ZC Es. Cut, see annotations.