Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Common problems include:
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If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread
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- As mentioned here
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- The [[noreallife]] tag no longer works. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. Per word of admin
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- If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
Can someone give their two cents on the RL section at Earth-Shattering Kaboom. Yes, I know that theoretically with a force powerful enough one could shatter the earth. However the section is filled with people astro-nattering about the Moon-impact hypothesis, the Large Hadron Collider, and several redundant examples all saying the earth could shatter with a force large enough.
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Yup, I think there should be a minimum threshold on this, with four or five being the minimum.
I would also not count betrothals, engagements, or anything that isn't an actual marriage, nor any where a marriage ends in spousal death, as the point of the trope is that the person can't make marriages work in serial fashion.
Earth-Shattering Kaboom listing out all the ways that the Earth could possibly be destroyed is edging towards violating our rule about speculative troping. There are a few astronomical examples that might be valid, such as the destruction of whatever body gave us the Mars-Jupiter asteroid belt, but since the Earth is still here (unless I'm really a Boltzmann brain or part of an ancestor simulation), it has obviously never been blown up.
All of those ways to end the Earth might be better placed under Apocalypse How.
Serial Spouse is both gossip and too common to trope in Real Life.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 7th 2022 at 8:01:45 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Good Stepmother is not listed as NRLE even though its inverse Wicked Stepmother is. Good morality tropes are still morality tropes.
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What is Serial Spouse anyway? Just having multiple different spouses in succession is People Sit on Chairs, so is it a trope about the correlation between having multiple spouses and a character flaw leading to them being unable to keep spouses for long?
Edited by Albert3105 on Jan 7th 2022 at 7:56:36 AM
Any talk of modifying the definition of Serial Spouse is outside the scope of this thread. However I do agree we should put it on the crowner as too common in real life. The RL section even has an entry for an anonymous reddit post, of all things.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meFor Late-Arrival Spoiler, should there be a Sports folder for sports results, given that the Real Life folder is very likely to be nuked?
Edited by Nen_desharu on Jan 7th 2022 at 9:46:37 AM
Kirby is awesome.I think since spoilers can exist in Sports unlike real life, I would vouch for that particular folder being kept, though maybe we could vote on it separately.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.I agree with mew.
After the motion for Late-Arrival Spoiler is done (it's very likely real-life examples will be removed), we can have another motion if sports examples should be added, given that a Sports folder can be created.
It's true that sports (when played legitimately) isn't scripted (aside from Professional Wrestling), but sports does have a narrative. Over a billion people follow sports on a regular basis and many of the most-watched televised events are sports. Some popular sports websites even allow readers to hide sports results. Sports may be a subset of real life, but sports do have spoilers, unlike most of the other subsets of real life (though election results do have spoilers as well, but that's a separate topic).
Edited by Nen_desharu on Jan 8th 2022 at 12:51:13 PM
Kirby is awesome.Sports do not have narratives, there is no creator behind the scenes who has scripted out a game (at least not a legitimate game) and uses tropes to tell a story.
This goes doubly for Late-Arrival Spoiler, because as a narrative trope, you cannot spoil a game any more than you can spoil a political election. People who missed a game and do not want to know the score is not a spoiler in the narrative sense. It is also so overwhelmingly common that any such list would just be listing every single Superbowl, Stanley Cup, World Cup, World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, BCS Bowl, playoff game etc. There would be no end to it.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meKitboga has lot of real life troping. Why do we even have a page for self righteous assholes like him? We shouldn’t be troping scam baiters.
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!Can someone take a look at the RL section in The End of the World as We Know It? I don't think any of the entries are valid, it sounds like a bunch of natter on topics somewhat related to the end of the world.
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Looks like Moderator Tabs deleted the RL folder in question. Agreed with this action.
Single-Attempt Game has a Real Life folder that consists solely of, “Make the most of it.” It’s not even bulleted. I vote to cut it.
Cut that, but I do think a joke along those lines could be added to the actual Real Life trope list, considering it presents itself as a game and all.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallI don't know if we should NRLEP it just for having a folder consisting of no bullet points; just text. That is, unless it's getting real life troping elsewhere on the site.
If it should be though, it's Impossible.
Limpin' with the bizkit.
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Should there be a three-spouse minimum for Serial Spouse? Or four?
Edited by Albert3105 on Jan 6th 2022 at 11:11:45 AM