Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.
Common problems include:
- Conversation on the Main Page
- Flame Bait
- Squicky content
- Impossible in Real Life
Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. Please note that the purpose of this thread is to clean up and maintain real life sections, not raze them. Cutting should be treated as a last resort, so please only suggest cutting RL sections or a subset thereof you think the examples in question are completely unsalvageable.
If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread
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If you think a trope should be No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only, then this thread is the place to discuss it. However, please check Keep Real Life Examples first to see if it has already been brought up in the past. If not, state the reasons and add it to the crowner.
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- An ATT advert should be made as well (batch items together if more than one trope goes up in a day).
In order for a crowner to pass:
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- Do not try to overturn previous No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only decisions without a convincing argument.
- As mentioned here
, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag no longer works. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. Per word of admin
as of 2025, any replacement for this system will not use markup, so these tags can be removed.
- If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
I propose cutting the Real Life examples for Qurac since it’s, by definition, a fictional stereotypical middle eastern country. I’d say that falls under Gossip and Stereotypes.
Once Upon A Time.Should we cut Real Life examples from Skewed Priorities for being too common and potentially too controversial?
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 8th 2021 at 10:54:22 AM
Once Upon A Time.
Agreed. Many of the entries violate Examples Are Not General as well.
Also Insult to Rocks’ crowner is closed but real life examples are on the page. Did we agree to keep them or should I go ahead and remove them?
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 8th 2021 at 11:16:05 AM
Once Upon A Time.
It didn't have a 2:1 ratio so we kept them.
Here’s a Crowner for Skewed Priorities
Skewed Priorities: The trope is Too Common and potential Flame Bait.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 8th 2021 at 11:27:07 AM
Once Upon A Time.Humiliation Conga is another I’m surprised allows Real Life examples. Since many of the entries are on politicians, I feel it violates the ROCEJ. Also the Laconic implies that it’s a morality trope.
Once Upon A Time.To whit:
Bernie Madoff (pronounced Made-off), the perpetrator of the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, underwent one of these after he was exposed. Not only was he caught, but all of his possessions were sold to the people he scammed, he was thrown in prison for 150 years, David Letterman made a Running Gag of a countdown clock until his sentence ends, and his daughter-in-law legally changed her name so that she couldn’t be associated with him. And it looks like he got the crap beaten out of him in prison by a con who may have been an angry investor. And his son committed suicide, apparently out of not being able to deal with the shame that the incident brought his family. And now he’s dead from kidney failure
Here’s a crowner if it’s agreed that it should be cut.
- Humiliation Conga: Attracts political soapboxing and other ROCEJ violations. Also potentially a morality trope depending on if its meant only to apply to villains or other types of Asshole Victim.
When you feel like there has been enough discussion, you can add the crowner poll below (where it says “Page action…”).
FWIW, I’m fine with the idea of cutting the Real Life page from Humiliation Conga for the reasons stated. The page strikes me as horribly bloated, with loads of ROCEJ issues and wall of text entries.
This ATT query
raised the question of why Animals Fear Neutering is on NoRealLife.Too Common and not NoRealLife.Impossible In Real Life, since the trope is based on the concept of Sapient Pets (as stated when the trope was launched).
While my cat was afraid of the trip to the vet when he was being taken to get neutered, it's because he doesn't like being in a moving car or places he's unfamiliar with, which is true for every visit to the vet's office since then, rather than the fact that he had to get neutered.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 8th 2021 at 10:07:46 AM
I got a rock for Halloween.We punted on
Humiliation Conga earlier because it’s a pretty clear Trope Repair Shop Candidate for its title not making its Karma-based definition clear enough.
I won’t object to that.
Edited by DDRMASTERM on Aug 8th 2021 at 10:45:47 AM
Agreed. Pets don't know they are going to be neutered; that's an exclusive trait of anthropomorphized fictional animals.
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- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page

If nothing else, it doesn't belong on the Recap page, which is about troping the events of the episode. Maybe the Real Life section, though I imagine that could use some analysis to make sure it's not making any controversial claims.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.