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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 29th Nov '16 9:27:01 AM by Madrugada

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 19th 2019 at 5:35:14 PM

For Unperson.Real Life, should I delete the entire General folder per Examples Are Not General?

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Sep 19th 2019 at 5:35:31 AM

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WarJay77 Spooky Scary from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Spooky Scary
Sep 19th 2019 at 6:26:28 PM

Yes.

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Sep 20th 2019 at 4:30:23 PM

[up][up]As a note, there were a couple examples in it that were non-general or could easily be made so. That's something to watch out for when getting rid of a General section. (Still, we're not losing anything of value and they can be added back in their proper folders if anyone actually cares.)

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Sep 25th 2019 at 7:31:06 PM

I believe that due to the polarizing nature of politics, I do not believe that politicians should be allowed to be listed as Ensemble Dark Horses. Additionally, sports examples should be moved to their own page, or an other media page, rather than a real life page.

Overall, I think that listing real life people as ensemble darkhorses would be just as much flame bait as listing real life scrappies, as not everyone likes the real people listed on this trope.

Whoever did this is trying to control us, and it might be a game to him, but to us it's life or death!
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 25th 2019 at 10:17:57 PM

Was Light Is Not Good ever on the NRLEP list? It's on Keep Real Life Examples, but if you go into edit mode, you'll find a [[noreallife]] tag between the description and examples line.

Limpin' with the bizkit.
Sep 26th 2019 at 8:59:22 AM

[up]It is

Edited by nendroid on Sep 26th 2019 at 9:01:23 AM

Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Sep 26th 2019 at 12:54:38 PM

Can someone please acknowledge my post regarding my concerns towards Real Life EDH examples?

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 26th 2019 at 2:40:31 PM

I meant was Light Is Not Good NRLEP before last month?

Found out that it indeed was not on the index before mid-August. So I deleted it from the list.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Sep 27th 2019 at 4:42:24 AM

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 27th 2019 at 1:39:00 PM

[up][up] And I do agree that politicians should not be allowed as examples of Ensemble Dark Horse due to how controversial they get.

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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety troper.
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 27th 2019 at 4:45:47 PM

Yes. The definition, in short, is "a minor but extremely popular character to the audience." I don't know what else to say except that nobody is a "minor" character in Real Life.

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 28th 2019 at 10:11:44 PM

As for other problems with that page, the Politics sections looks like a natter festival.

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WarJay77 Spooky Scary from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Spooky Scary
Sep 28th 2019 at 10:13:39 PM

I already said on the Ensemble Dark Horse thread that I agree with making it NRLEP...

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Sep 29th 2019 at 12:40:46 PM

Suppose it's time to add it to the crowner?

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 4th 2019 at 3:49:43 PM

Is there any reason Awful British Sex Comedy is on the list? It doesn't list any examples of the tropeon its main page, just tropes featured in the genre.

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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety troper.
Oct 4th 2019 at 5:00:45 PM

Given some of these scores, I'm a bit worried that some of those tropes are not being made NRLEP for no good reason. I have yet to see a counterargument for many of these, and I worry some of these are being kept on the grounds of "I like it".

You don't mean no-nothing at all to me...
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 4th 2019 at 7:18:18 PM

I know adding tropes to the list without discussion is not allowed, but can exceptions be made if a trope is launched with a "no real life examples" message?

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RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Oct 4th 2019 at 7:52:14 PM

Obviously if it's launched as NRLEP (with consensus) it can be added.

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 4th 2019 at 9:07:32 PM

I've read some YKTTW archives where there was a "no real life examples" warning, and nobody talked about it in TLP

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Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Oct 4th 2019 at 10:21:12 PM

Well, the rules such as they are do allow TLP to launch things as NRLEP, so unless there were objections raised it keeps it.

RE: Awful British Sex Comedy, it has been on the page since it was moved from the Main namespace in 2013. At the time, each item had its own note as to why. The note from it was : "Would be Complaining About Shows You Dont Like". How long it was on the page before that and who added it is lost to time since someone decided to cut the Main redirect, thereby making the old history unaccessable.

Since it is just defining a 'genre', there really couldn't be any RL examples anyway making the whole issue pointless.

Edited by Zyffyr on Oct 4th 2019 at 10:33:42 AM

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 4th 2019 at 10:54:02 PM

So remove it from the list?

[up] Also, the Wayback Machine is your friend.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Oct 4th 2019 at 10:59:09 AM

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

Page Action: Real Life Section Maintenance 56
1st Jul '19 6:05:27 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated. Please discuss pages before adding them to the crowner. Entries made without discussion are subject to deletion.

Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.

Vote DOWN to allow Real Life examples.

Items that have a big (CLOSED) at the ending have already been decided, meeting the following requirements:
  • They have ten or more total votes,
  • have been on the crowner for at least 48 hours, measured from when the addition of the new crowner entry is announced in a thread post,
  • and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.

No further voting is needed on those items.

To check if something has already been voted on, please see Keep Real Life Examples.

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