Real Life section maintenance (New Crowner 19 Feb 2024)

Galactic Conqueror has some very questionable real life examples:

• Not content with ruling most of the earth, Richard Branson has founded Virgin Galactic, a company which according to The Other Wiki intends to provide sub-orbital spaceflights to the paying public, along with suborbital space science missions and orbital launches of small satellites but come on, we all know what it's really for.
• We have space stations, probes have landed on Mars and collected rock samples, there is an American flag on the moon. Scientists are talking about terraforming planets. It won't be long now....

Those should be removed per the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment, and the trope made NRLEP as it's a villain characterization trope.

Edited by Albert3105 on May 13th 2019 at 8:07:21 AM

Should Galactic Conqueror go under "Morality Tropes" or "Tropes Impossible in Real Life"? Also, I brought up Tautological Templar and removed its examples in July of last year; can I add it to the list?

If Conqueror has a negative connotation, it should definitely go under Morality Tropes. And it is impossible (at least right now) to even build up the sufficient army required for such a thing in real life.

And should I keep adding reasons for tropes being NRLEP on that page, or leave it to professionals?

And one more thing for now, we should add Dirty Kid to the crowner. It means the same thing as Dirty Old Man and Dirty Old Woman (just age is different), which are both NRLEP, and the page expressly states that Real Life examples are prohibited.

Per this Ask the Tropers thread, should Badass Gay be made NRLEP?

Edited by rjd1922 on May 16th 2019 at 10:21:14 AM

Yes.

I would like to propose that the trope "Baldness Angst" be given a "No Real Life" tag. It's a fairly recent launch and doesn't have many examples (and none of the examples listed are real life) but I still believe it should warrant one since it is both Too Common in Real Life—since pretty much every balding person experiences some degree of angst about it (initially, at least) and it would probably be a form of gossip.

I also believe that Younger Than They Look should have its real life examples done away with as well. Its inverse, Older Than They Look doesn't allow real life examples anymore, neither should Younger Than They Look since it's also a form of gossip/stereotyping (and I've admittedly contributed to it).

Edited by thecarolinabull01 on May 17th 2019 at 8:37:30 AM

Supernaturally Delicious and Nutritious has real life examples which... just doesn't work with the definition of said trope. The tortoise and feral pig examples are examples of something, but they're not supernatural.

And the tortoise example is about people eating them, which would be Alien Lunch. If, you know, Galapagos tortoises were either aliens or supernatural. They're weird, but not that weird.

If Cold-Blooded Torture is NRLEP because it's too squicky, why does Cruel and Unusual Death have RL examples.

Edited by Lymantria on May 19th 2019 at 10:05:02 AM

I think you found the reanimated corpse of the PRLC'd Real Life subpage of Eldritch Abomination, which I incidentally brought up a while back when discussing the "Impossible in Real Life" folder of the NRLEP index.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 20th 2019 at 12:33:25 PM

Just a question. Is this also the thread for asking to move tropes to a different folder?

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on May 20th 2019 at 8:46:12 AM

I don't know what the official policy is, but that sounds like the right thing to do. The page mainly says not to arbitrarily add or remove tropes, but when I changed the wick for Fandom Berserk Button to Fandom-Enraging Misconception, I don't recall seeing anything about sorting tropes.

Nah, we just do RL examples cleanup and stuff here.

You can post on Ask the Tropers to find out where that thread is, or talk about it there if there isn't a formal thread for that.

Cut RL examples on Supernaturally Delicious and Nutritious on the basis of it being a supernatural trope.

I forgot to mention that I added a No Real Life Examples, Please! notice to beginning of the main Tear Jerker page's subpage list, because it's had problems with NRLEP violations (despite having that status for quite a while), including recent issues with TearJerker.Peanuts.

In addition, it's in a buttload of indexes, with the NRLEP index being near the bottom, so people would otherwise have to scroll to the bottom of the page to see that it has NRLEP status.

Edit: I added a similar notice to Fandom-Enraging Misconception's example list a bit ago and removed the Science folder and most of the Universites and Colleges folder thusly. Fandom-Enraging Misconception has been NRLEP since 2017 (it was added under its then-current name, Fandom Berserk Button).

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 21st 2019 at 9:58:43 AM

Regarding the Other page for Nightmare Fuel, it expressly states at the top that it is not a Real Life section. Yet it includes abandoned locations, disturbing sounds, and computers, which look like evasions of NRLEP. Also, the Unsorted folder on that page has examples that refer to real people/groups (e.g. PETA, King Inna North), and again, RL examples of NF are not to be listed.

Note: Let's get this clear; just because a page says No Real Life Examples, Please! doesn't only mean "Do not add a Real Life folder or subpage for this article." For some tropes listed under that index, we also don't want examples concerning the musicians/developers/creators/etc., as those are real people, and we don't want them to be an example of the tropes in that index.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on May 29th 2019 at 8:57:14 AM

You forgot the bracket, so the pothole at the beginning of your post doesn't display properly.

Macho Camp should definitely be NRLEP for being a gay stereotype.

I'd start by clearing out everything that's a blatant attempt to get around NRLEP.

Should we leave that to moderators lest we cause an Edit War?

Should This Is My Human have real examples? I don't think it can have real life examples since it's an animal anthropomorphism trope.

The anthropomorphic idea in the trope is nowhere to be seen.

To change the topic, the list was filled with explanations for not allowing Real Life Examples despite them being erased to avoid overloading the page.

Why not convert each folder into its own subpage?

Also, shouldn't He Who Fights Monsters, Magnificent Bastard, Manipulative Bastard, and Moral Event Horizon all go in Morality Tropes, seeing as they are about villains?

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on May 24th 2019 at 8:01:45 AM

I'd like to suggest The Dog Shot First, if it hasn't been suggested already. Listing any real life examples is severe flame bait.

@Fridge Guy 2016:

There's too few moderators to leave cleanup to them. They also have a lot of only-mod duties to do, and their lives outside the site.

What we do here (as in, on the site) is clean up examples that violate rules, policy, guidelines, thread decisions, etc. If someone kicks off an edit war, we report them, then clean up after them once the all-clear is given.

Examples that violate previous decisions, such as making a trope NRLEP, can be removed, with a citation in the edit reason to this thread and/or the page listing NRLEP'd tropes.

In other news, College Is "High School, Part 2" has a real life folder (not bad), that has all General examples (which isn't allowed). (Plus, I can verify that not all community colleges -like, say, the one I'm going to- are like the ones cited in the first example anyway.) I think the examples need to be removed, but the trope does not need to be NRLEP'd at this time.

Edit: Supernatural Is Purple has Real Life examples. 1) They're general and 2) not supernatural.

The "Other" folder Harry Potter and chakra examples look okay. Not sure about the other two.

Edited by Candi on May 25th 2019 at 6:31:52 AM