Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.
Common problems include:
- Conversation on the Main Page
- Flame Bait
- Squicky content
- Impossible in Real Life
Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. Please note that the purpose of this thread is to clean up and maintain real life sections, not raze them. Cutting should be treated as a last resort, so please only suggest cutting RL sections or a subset thereof you think the examples in question are completely unsalvageable.
If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread
) for RL instead of NRLEP. If RL examples are causing problems only for certain subjects, consider whether a Limited Real Life Examples Only restriction would be preferable to NRLEP.
If you think a trope should be No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only, then this thread is the place to discuss it. However, please check Keep Real Life Examples first to see if it has already been brought up in the past. If not, state the reasons and add it to the crowner.
Before adding to the crowner:
- The trope should be proposed in the thread, along with reasons for why a crowner is necessary instead of a cleanup.
- There must be support from others in thread.
- Any objections should be addressed.
- Allow a minimum of 24 hours for discussion.
When adding to the crowner:
- Be sure to add the trope name, a link to where the discussion started, the reasons for crownering, whether the restriction being proposed is NRLEP or LRLEO (and in the latter case, which subject(s) the restriction would be for), and the date added.
- Announce in thread that you are adding the item.
- An ATT advert should be made as well (batch items together if more than one trope goes up in a day).
In order for a crowner to pass:
- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
- Once passed, tropes must be indexed on the appropriate NRLEP or LRLEO index
- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page
Sex Tropes, Rape and Sexual Harassment Tropes, and Morality Tropes are banned from having RL sections so tropes under those indexes don't need a crowner vote.
As per Real Life Troping, we never trope unscripted real life sports — so sports tropes where RL examples would only apply to those scenarios don't need a crowner vote.
Crowner entries that have already been called will have "(CLOSED)" appended to them — and are no longer open for discussion.
After bringing up a trope for discussion, please wait at least a day for feedback before adding it to the crowner.
NRLEP tag:
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Notes:
- This thread is not for general discussion regarding policies for Real Life sections or crowners. Please take those conversations to this Wiki Talk thread
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- Do not try to overturn previous No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only decisions without a convincing argument.
- As mentioned here
, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag no longer works. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. Per word of admin
as of 2025, any replacement for this system will not use markup, so these tags can be removed.
- If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the staff to add the trope via this thread
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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
RealLife.Mean Character Nice Actor was reported in ATT for massive messy problems. It needs some serious cleanup. I don't currently see it as a NRLEP candidate, but opinions may differ.
Seconded. And keep MCNA Real Life (especially if it's its own page).
Face of an Angel, Mind of a Demon has the [noreallife] tag.I won't add it to the crowner, because it is overdosed.
Apparently we have TakeThat.Real Life and TakeThat.Other, which document real occasions of people insulting other people. I can't find anything worthwile on these pages, excepting some specific medium categories on the latter page (Theatre, Tabletop Games, etc.).
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"This thread is mainly for real life examples that prove too problematic to keep around, for various reasons we have outlines on the No Real Life Examples Please page.
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IMHO, since we're a wiki about Tropes used in media, Real Life bits might be useful color or commentary to help folks understand the trope better, but they're not essential by any stretch.
x3 Fighteer said it best: Real Life examples are tolerated. If they become an issue they get removed.
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It's probably not just you; there are probably others who're similarly mistaken.
It's basically a slippery slope perception. It's also ignoring that there are plenty of tropes which are voted to keep Real Life examples, and plenty that simply aren't a problem, so they're never brought up in the first place.
Check out my fanfiction!Japanese Christian was brought up in Ask The Tropers as a potential issue.
edited 11th Nov '15 10:58:54 AM by Karxrida
I feel that it's gossip when applied to real people, plus you occasionally get some nut deleting examples over theological conflicts.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"It's a trope, a trivia item, or a useful note. It can't be all three at once.
A useful note would mean that it describes the phenomenon of Japanese Christianity so that creators can depict it accurately and readers can spot bad depictions.
A trope would mean that it is relevant in some way to the story, setting, medium, presentation, or characterization within or of a work.
A trivia item would mean that we simply note the cases of it occurring, both in-universe and out.
edited 11th Nov '15 11:24:53 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I wonder if we can make a guide for writing real life examples, and when to make it no real life examples...
Now known as Cyber ControllerThere's already rules for real-life examples, the same as for any example, plus a couple.
How To Write An Example covers most of it. No general examples, must be completely written out, no Sinkholes, and so on.
There's no gossiping about, bashing, or troping real life people.
Real Life examples get cut when they're trouble. Some people launch their YKTTW default NRLEP because it could be trouble. Sex and Rape tropes are default NRLEP because RL examples are almost always trouble. They're tangential to the wiki's mission of documenting tropes in fiction, so they're allowed on sufferance, but not considered necessary.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Crown Description:
Vote UP to cut real life examples; vote DOWN to keep. Anything marked DONE has been resolved. In order for a crowner to pass:- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
- Once passed, tropes must be indexed on the appropriate NRLEP or LRLEO index
- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page

Crushing the populace is applicable to real life, but it is a delicate topic.