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Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 3rd 2025 at 6:31:00 AM
Should Town with a Dark Secret fall under the villains/evil rule, considering one of its redirects is "Small Towns Are Evil"?
Not quite sure about judging a trope based on a redirect. However, most of the examples were shoehorns, speculations, or generic examples, so I cleaned those. Something like CIA having a secret base somewhere isn't the trope, since that's a secret for the CIA, not for the town, as presumably people not involved with the CIA aren't in the know, whether they live in the town or not. I also moved one example to Literature.
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I think that everybody in the town having the same secret and working in concert to conceal it, as per the description, is highly improbable IRL. Watching the page for shoehorning and similar things might be a good idea.
Does Befriending the Enemy really require a villain? Two people can be on opposite sides of an issue, or even of most issues, and be friends, with neither being a villain.
The child is father to the man —OedipusAs it's written, yes, it requires a villain or antagonist. I'm not sure that's strictly necessary for what the trope means and how it's used, but that would probably be a TRS issue to redefine it.
Check out my fanfiction!General question: If we're NRLE Ping evil/villain tropes on the grounds of not making moral judgments about real people, what about hero tropes? Not saying we should or should not go either way, just wondering what other people think.
It's on a case-by-case basis. I think we do have some villain-like tropes with real life examples, such as relating to criminals. But due to the above-mentioned greater acceptance of positive things, people have it easier to consider the details of it without immediately finding it offensive, so it's much easier to do such things for hero tropes. If that makes any sense at all.
Check out my fanfiction!Kinda what I figured, but I wanted to throw it out there as I've been doing some RL cleanup on some hero-related tropes (the ever present natter and generalizations pretending to be examples), and it struck me that some of the designated "heros" have the potential to be controversial depending on which side of an issue a person falls on.
A large part of it falls under Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment. Probably the primary reason for the policy in the first place, I'd guess.
Check out my fanfiction!Should Implausible Deniability keep it's real life section?
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverI'm here for the same reasons as Ultimatum. I raised an issue with the specific example of the woman hitting the migrants and then denying it instantly afterwards, although that was mainly because it was badly worded. A user called DracMonster sent me here from Ask the Tropers.
For the trope itself being RL or NRLEP, I'm on the fence.
edited 2nd Sep '14 2:24:15 PM by captainmarkle
Trans rights are human rights. If you don't think that, please leave.You gots to add it for us to vote on it. :) (At the bottom hidden by the "show/hide options" button.)
Anyway, I went ahead and put it up, so cast your vote. I'm in favor of cutting it as there's some things on there about Real Life people (like sexual orientation) that really isn't appropriate.
edited 2nd Sep '14 3:24:16 PM by DracMonster
I'm not in favour of the examples about sexual orientation. However, the parts of the article that deal with psychopaths and their habit of Implausible Deniability, plus one or two examples such as the woman hitting a migrant and then having the gall to deny she hit him in the exact same breath, are motivating me to vote no.
Thanks for the hint for next time, all the same.
It may be that I need sleep (I do, but that's beside the point
), but if Implausible Deniability is already In-Universe Examples Only, isn't NRLEP redundant?
Or am I getting tripped up by my shoddy memory again?
(And yeah, back.)
edited 2nd Sep '14 8:08:34 PM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to TrumpImplausible Deniability is on the In-Universe Examples Only index, so I think NRLEP is redundant.
edited 2nd Sep '14 8:10:04 PM by VeryMelon
Since I don't see any mention here, I'd just like to note that Sunflower put Bury Your Gays on the crowner (which I'm kinda for making NRLEP, I admit), and, immediately afterwards, added No Real Life Example Please to the page, while deleting the real life section. I think the edits to that page are somewhat premature.
My troper wallYeah, that's not good. I'm all for NRLEPing Bury Your Gays (troublesome and probably impossible), but you don't add something onto a crowner and then act without waiting to see the results.
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Passed in Their Sleep was recently launched, and it doesn't allow real life examples. Can a mod add it to the No Real Life Examples Please page?