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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Daefaroth Fnord from California Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#12076: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:38:25 AM

^Yeah that did get cut. As I recall the original example it was something along the lines of torturing a 6 year old filly in front of her uncle, then having them both gang raped, and then using a pear of anguish on her. All in an example declaring the big bad a complete monster.

I braved it and looked it up. The scene in question did happen in chapter 18. I doubt it counts for much but it is pretty clearly played for shock and horror and not meant to be arousing in the least. At least I hope it wasn't meant to be.

edited 19th Sep '16 7:04:32 AM by Daefaroth

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Daefaroth Fnord from California Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#12078: Oct 8th 2016 at 7:47:30 PM

It is bad enough, but it barely skirts what I would consider graphic by a technicality in my head. The villain clearly explains what he is about to do but than rather than describe the act the narration focuses on her reaction to what is being done to her. In any case I think it very obviously crosses the line for what we want here. I will leave two lines here that should show how bad it is without requiring other people to read it if they don't have the stomach for it.

  • Bright heard, in response to the Legate, the muffled screams of a young filly, probably no older than five.
  • “I expected too much,” the Legate said. “Another question. This… Skippy… its hymen is intact, is it not?”

I don't think I need to go into any more detail than that.

edited 8th Oct '16 8:03:10 PM by Daefaroth

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JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#12081: Oct 11th 2016 at 5:25:02 AM

It ain't a day in the Flag Evaluations trenches without some paedophilic horse rape.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12082: Oct 12th 2016 at 5:46:55 AM

O hey something new on the list

Well that's fun time.

edited 12th Oct '16 5:49:22 AM by Adannor

Carnildo Since: Jan, 2001
#12083: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:02:36 PM

Guro is not, by itself, a reason to delete something.

MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Ace Gamer
#12084: Oct 14th 2016 at 8:31:33 PM

[up] Perhaps the existence of guro in a work isn't enough in itself to fall afoul of the content policy, but considering that the official website says "THIS GAME IS HORRORPORN" in huge letters and the phrase "this game was developed for fetishists by fetishists," and the VNDB page is tagged with "High Sexual Content" (and "High Amounts of Rape")...well, honestly, I felt that those links spoke for themselves when I reported it, which is why I didn't feel it necessary to elaborate.

Maybe they're overstating the porn:notporn ratio in the game, but I don't have the time or interest or stomach to see for myself.

Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
#12085: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:32:27 PM

Caligula has been sitting around for ages (likely because the Film page got permacut (? it's still open) by the P5. It ought to be either restored to its proper namespace (and likely permalocked), or cut entirely. Thoughts?

edited 12th Nov '16 8:34:54 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12086: Nov 12th 2016 at 9:35:36 PM

At the moment, they're working on a new P5. I don't know if the actual work got properly evaluated. At the time, it was not allowed back due to Admin Fiat. But a lot has changed since then, so I have no idea what the Mods plan for it.

I do agree leaving it in limbo is silly. Should either be cut or allowed. Being allowed can of course have varying degrees(including having less information than some trope pages and being locked), but yeah.

Shadow?
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#12087: Nov 12th 2016 at 9:51:48 PM

I believe that the P5 readmitted it before collapsing down to two, it just hasn't been fixed.

Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12089: Nov 12th 2016 at 11:20:39 PM

[up][up] The fact it's queued means we can't do anything. Due to a lack of P5, well... but I did forget it got some re-evaluation.

[up] Precisely. Give it time.

Shadow?
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12090: Nov 13th 2016 at 1:07:30 AM

Caligula was voted to restore, for the record.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#12091: Nov 13th 2016 at 2:59:02 AM

Alright, so then it probably should be restored.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12092: Nov 15th 2016 at 1:01:13 PM

Pinging ~Discar as the only currently active 5P member here.

On the actionable CVR, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Your Human And You can be checked off as "done". Same for Eiyuu Senki, which has not been restored only on account of lacking a trope list.

Also think that Witchblade Takeru, Rules, Hybrid Child, Rosario + Vampire, Niels, Haru wo Daiteita and The Carp On The Chopping Block Jumps Twice should be clean and thus ready to mark as "done". Asking people whether Wet Goddess, Chakona Space and Fluffy Pony can be considered "clean" and ready to be sent off as "done" as well.

Erotic Film still needs some cleaning. Caligula and Naughty Tentacles to follow...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12093: Nov 15th 2016 at 1:12:50 PM

Also, it'd be nice if people could add notes to the discussion pages of the pages mentioned above.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12095: Nov 15th 2016 at 10:48:01 PM

The relaunch of Naughty Tentacles was going to be tamer with a tamer name right? Last I read it was Frisky Tentacles or something.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#12096: Nov 16th 2016 at 5:54:39 AM

That was definitely discussed...that would cover all the times it's subverted, parodied, or otherwise not played straight, with possibly a mention of the Naughty version in the description.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#12097: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:23:29 AM

Frisky Tentacles sounds like Cthulhu has infested my bag of cat food.

Seriously, the name does have to convey sexual-ness and "Frisky", while sometimes used that way, isn't something that immediately brings that to mind. Do we really have to re-hash this same debate again?

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12098: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:26:33 AM

It would cover played straight versions too outside actual explicit tentacle sex. Tentacle Sex not be included anywhere really I think, that is just too much.

Frisky covers

  • actually frisky tentacles that grab breasts and such, nudity not required.
  • Accusations that the tentacles are getting on the sexual harassment side, even if that is not visually the case.
  • Characters who wish for it or get delusions that that will happen.
  • Subversions where instead of getting perverted they instead tickle them or something to that effect.
Etc.

[up] Eh? Frisky: sexually playful or excited

edited 16th Nov '16 6:28:38 AM by Memers

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12099: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:31:44 AM

Per our new overlords, Naughty Tentacles is an acceptable article title. We can flag it so that Google ads don't run, and that should satisfy everyone involved. What we do want is to ensure that examples follow the guidelines that have been agreed upon: Only parodies, subversions, etc.

Tentacle Sex is not happening, I think. Probably not a place that's worth going.

edited 16th Nov '16 6:32:20 AM by Fighteer

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12100: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:47:44 AM

[up] That still includes straight tame examples like groping clothed breasts and accusations of improper tentacle conduct and such right? That stuff makes into even works aimed at kids, not kidding.

edited 16th Nov '16 6:55:40 AM by Memers


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