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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12026: Apr 18th 2016 at 8:28:24 AM

O hey, we got a new flag: VideoGame.Emmanuelle
"I know literally nothing about this game or its source material, but what little content there is on the page doesn't speak well for its porn:gameplay ratio."

edited 18th Apr '16 8:50:56 AM by Adannor

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Lost in Space
#12027: Apr 18th 2016 at 8:30:20 AM

Emmanuelle is a rather famous bit of erotic literature/film. It probably would not be devilheaded for the same reason we don't do that to other erotic fiction: it has literary merit above and beyond its pornographic nature.

As for whether the video game meets that standard, I can't say.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12028: Apr 18th 2016 at 9:15:30 AM

From The Other Wiki "The game is considered to slightly erotic, but not pornographic." And looking at a photo lets play I see a few extremely pixelated boobs and bad bad bad dialog but nothing else.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#12029: Apr 18th 2016 at 9:20:09 AM

The Other Wiki, which of course isn't necessarily a definitive source, describes it as "The game is considered to slightly erotic, but not pornographic", and says that there are no hardcore scenes, just one possible keyhole peep show of the titular character disrobing.

(partially [nja] tongue )

In short, doesn't sound like it's particularly banworthy as far as lewdness rules go. (It is, though, a stub that perhaps should be cut for not having enough content. That's not this thread, however.)

edited 20th Apr '16 8:49:31 PM by Nohbody

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MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Ace Gamer
#12030: Apr 19th 2016 at 11:59:02 AM

[up][up][up] I was the one who reported the Emanuelle game. I'm aware that the films have artistic merits beyond just being porn—which is why I reported the game page and not the film page. ;)

To be honest, I doubted that there was enough explicit material in the game for it to be cut, but I don't have time to research it myself, and I wouldn't have been entirely surprised if the game ended up being straight-up porn, hence the P5 flag.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#12031: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:31:36 AM

Were we still doing the AO rating purge, then I'd simply say "not enough evidence to cut on porn grounds, so stub-cut it instead."

We can still do that if we want, though we're not doing a major cleanup right now, so we don't have to treat it like the rest of the pages that Tiggers Are Great crapped out in ages past.

edited 20th Apr '16 7:32:45 AM by Ramidel

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#12032: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:15:26 PM

I feel like singling out specific tropers for their past behavior (especially since I'm fairly sure some of it happened before there was a content policy) isn't really productive here, so can we not do that?

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#12033: Apr 20th 2016 at 2:10:04 PM

In this case, it's very recently been discovered Tigger copy&pasted a bunch of stuff from Wikipedia articles to create TVT articles (see YKTTW Crash Rescue thread), following up with poor troping of said games. So charitable feelings towards him are kind of at low ebb at the moment.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12034: Apr 20th 2016 at 2:47:52 PM

That doesn't mean we talk badly about other users. Banned or not.

But we do know some pages need work that he happened to make, so let's concentrate more on fixing/cutlising/etc. them instead.

Shadow?
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#12035: Apr 30th 2016 at 4:03:49 PM

Machinima.Peachs Slutty Adventure. May be all implied, but since the page gives no link to the actual thing, I can't tell. Noodle Incident is misused on the page, too. That's straight Crosses the Line Twice.

edited 30th Apr '16 4:04:54 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Assassin-sensei Since: Jun, 2014
#12036: Apr 30th 2016 at 4:28:23 PM

[up] Not porn. I don't really know or understand what I just skimmed through, but it appears to be just an SSB parody series with vulgar humor.

It's blocked from viewing on You Tube in the US, but that can easily be dodged. (NSFW? I don't even know - there's no age restriction on it on You Tube)

edited 30th Apr '16 4:29:40 PM by Assassin-sensei

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#12037: Apr 30th 2016 at 4:59:18 PM

[up]probably not then, but it Crosses the Line Twice a lot, and has a pedo gorilla in it, I only posted because I forgot about where the flagging thing was (it's a massive button, so I couldn't see it.)

edited 30th Apr '16 5:01:52 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#12038: Apr 30th 2016 at 5:02:35 PM

There's also mirror uploads on Youtube that aren't blocked...because there are ALWAYS mirror uploads on Youtube that aren't blocked.

And from what I saw, it's mostly just sexual jokes in a set of crude Smash Bros. machinima-esque videos. (Only a single sex scene, and since it's done using visually unedited gameplay footage...yeah, nothing really to see here.)

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12039: May 21st 2016 at 3:00:49 PM

O hey there's actually new thing on the queue

I've read that one, loong ago. IIRC it does have a thread of a plot even with some character development and twists... but the porn overwhelms everything.

edited 21st May '16 3:01:01 PM by Adannor

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#12040: May 21st 2016 at 5:48:33 PM

It's porn. I checked it out on E-hentai.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12041: May 22nd 2016 at 7:02:30 AM

Yeah it's porn, rather iconic being one of the first officially translated into English Hentai works but still porn.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#12042: May 22nd 2016 at 10:44:21 AM

In addendum to my last post, RIP Komodin. He'll be missed by all who knew him.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#12043: May 26th 2016 at 3:59:03 PM

I'm the one who flagged Alice in Sexland, was I supposed to be the one to notify the thread? I've never done this before.

dexterian120 from Chicago, USA Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: Snogging Lavender Brown
#12044: May 28th 2016 at 8:38:06 AM

[up][up][up] So I suppose the question with Alice in Sexland, then, would be whether it's important enough for a page? Out of a random group of anime fans, would a majority know it and the significance of it? I bring this up after seeing what we did with Playboy and The Story of O, as well as to a lesser extent FATAL. The first two were unequivocally porn, but they were significant and as you put it, iconic enough that we felt we should mention them. Maybe we need a stub, saying "hey, this is the first hentai translated into English, which started a wave of insert relevant anime history here".

“My loathings are simple. stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music." -Vladimir Nabokov
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12045: May 28th 2016 at 8:43:09 AM

Newer practice strongly frowns on tropeless work pages, though. Also, remember that There Is No Such Thing as Notability (regarding the "important enough").

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dexterian120 from Chicago, USA Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: Snogging Lavender Brown
#12046: May 28th 2016 at 9:26:24 AM

[up] Okay, I see. Thanks for clarifying.

“My loathings are simple. stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music." -Vladimir Nabokov
Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12047: Jun 11th 2016 at 9:27:39 AM

Meanwhile, I see one more flag on the pile

Not seeing nukige tag on VNDB, none of the characters in CG collection look particularly loli to me, but it does seem pretty heavy on porn ratio.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12048: Jun 11th 2016 at 3:49:55 PM

Tags... Gore, death, cannibalism. Nice Boat endings much?

The actual Yandere is a little on the small side and younger than the protagonist, as labeled in the tags, but in no way a loli or anything.

edited 11th Jun '16 3:50:59 PM by Memers

Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#12050: Jun 14th 2016 at 12:59:31 PM

Why was our page on "Yume Miru Kusuri" deleted?


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