TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Go To

The sub-forum is used for discussions that adjudicate possible violations of The Content Policy. Threads here can be created by flagging a page through the sidebar "report" button and toggling "The page may violate the Content Policy".

This thread is for general discussion of pages.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#14451: Aug 10th 2022 at 8:31:10 PM

Sort of? It's a whole big thing where one troper admitted to shoehorning things (especially on Nightmare Fuel) to make the show seem more mature and thus more appealing to adult audiences.

That said, being that Ho Yay is an entirely subjective concept anyway and really just boils down to "the audience thinks that non-romantic thing they just did was totally gay in the literal sense of the word" I'm not as worried about shoehorns. The issue with the other stuff was that things were being blatantly exaggerated, but Ho Yay is about reading too deep into things anyway...

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#14452: Aug 10th 2022 at 8:31:24 PM

Yeah, someone openly admitted to and apologized for writing lots and lots of distorted examples in order to make the show seem more acceptable for adult fans to watch and get more tropers to like it. It's the kind of thing that's pretty obviously at work with a lot of Nightmare Fuel and Getting Crap Past the Radar pages (among others) for kids' shows, but it's extremely rare to see someone actually come out and admit it, so it's semi-infamous among people involved in cleanup threads.

FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#14453: Aug 10th 2022 at 8:37:13 PM

I believe the one who did it admitted it because that Nightmare Fuel page became widely discussed after 4chan discovered it and made fun of the site for it.

Anywho, this is getting off-topic now. Bottom line, there seems to be consenss that this is a non-issue.

justakawaiigirl The Cinnamon Roll from California Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
The Cinnamon Roll
#14454: Aug 14th 2022 at 11:17:11 AM

How do I report something? Hen Zemi seems too NSFW, given that it shows sex and is all about fetishes.

Edited by justakawaiigirl on Aug 14th 2022 at 11:17:53 AM

Nyaa!
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#14455: Aug 14th 2022 at 11:20:45 AM

There should be report button on the sidebar.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#14456: Aug 14th 2022 at 1:11:37 PM

Doesn't look like a problem, so please think before reporting and adding another thread. It looks to be a sex comedy and those get a pass.

"Too NSFW" is not the standard we go with.

Edited by Ramidel on Aug 14th 2022 at 12:12:58 AM

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#14457: Aug 14th 2022 at 2:54:04 PM

Going by the page, they're university students (not underage), and seems to be more plot than porn (even saying that a lot of the sexual fetishes from the manga are downplayed). I think it's fine.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#14458: Aug 16th 2022 at 3:26:25 AM

This work Hen Zemi has actually already been cleared here.

It's apparently just a Japanese version of Menage A 3 in content which is A Okay for her.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#14459: Aug 16th 2022 at 6:40:38 AM

SNIP, wrong thread

Edited by Willbyr on Aug 16th 2022 at 8:40:58 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14460: Aug 17th 2022 at 3:03:58 PM

Seems like the flag on Princess Trainer can be zapped, as the thread disposed it to cut already.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SereneSpecter13 F1 the MS Office robo-assistant from Microsoft Office (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
#14461: Aug 18th 2022 at 2:16:14 AM

[up]x19 "Maybe it's because I'm 26, but I do not like to think of "kids" and "romance" in the same sentence. Nonetheless, I may be overreacting."

By that logic, Puppy Love and Toy Ship should be cut entirely because those tropes are inherently pedo-pandering.

I foolishly got myself bounced by adding bigotry to my troper page, so unless a miracle happens and I get unbounced someday like Ag Prov did way back when, don't expect any contributions from me anytime soon.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#14462: Aug 18th 2022 at 12:23:55 PM

EDIT: Selfthump.

Edited by Ramidel on Aug 18th 2022 at 11:32:47 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#14463: Aug 18th 2022 at 12:28:37 PM

Guys, the conversation ended a while ago, let's not keep piling on.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14464: Aug 26th 2022 at 9:25:28 AM

I've been updating The Content Policy so that the "Bleached Underpants Version Only" section specifies which version we allow, and I've found some problem entries:

  • Kite lacks an explanation or indeed CVR vote. There is an entry here but no formal vote that I can see?
  • Same issue with Peter Is the Wolf, this time with a CVR vote but no explanation.
  • RE-TAKE had discussion of only allowing the all-ages version but I don't see a vote or CVR resolution.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#14465: Aug 26th 2022 at 9:41:08 AM

Well for Kite.

  • a General Release with most of the sexual content removed, a subsequent Director's Cut that leaves most of the controversial material intact, and a Special Edition that is presented as being totally uncut.

Seems to be troping the general release.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#14466: Aug 26th 2022 at 11:31:08 AM

[up] Agreed. There’s only a handful of trope examples that reference the adult material and none of them are especially lurid so I’d say that page is safe as is, unless someone wants to take a gander at those few examples.

IIRC RE-TAKE's page was scrubbed a few years ago but I’ll take another look at it.
EDIT: There's a few examples that reference the explicit content that need to be evaluated.

Edited by Willbyr on Aug 26th 2022 at 1:38:06 PM

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#14467: Aug 26th 2022 at 1:10:41 PM

According to this, Da Capo, Demonbane, Koihime†Musou and Sky Girls are also Bleached Underpants only. Nanatsuiro★Drops too according to this, and Training with Hinako was only restored on the condition that the third episode "Bathtime with Hinako & Hikayo" wasn't mentioned due to pedo-pandering. Mezzo Forte and Anubis and the Buried Bone say on their pages to limit to the SFW versions.

Edited by rjd1922 on Aug 26th 2022 at 4:36:05 AM

Keet cleanup
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14468: Aug 26th 2022 at 3:13:31 PM

Did these additions, only Kite, Peter Is the Wolf, Demonbane and RE-TAKE need an explainer now.

For the others:

  • Regarding Koihime†Musou - um, we have a page for the VN and another one for the anime. The anime is safe, but discussions sound like the VN might have problems with the paedobait rule ... imma page ~Arha here.
  • Anubis and the Buried Bone was apparently never reviewed by 5P; ~Rainbowdash55 might have done this on their own initiative. I wouldn't necessarily consider this a bad thing, but not something to add to the CVR list IMO.
  • Mezzo Forte had a thread which didn't mention an Bleached Underpants restriction and the CVR also doesn't mention one. Might be the same deal as Anubis above.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#14469: Aug 26th 2022 at 4:03:03 PM

Man I played like that like ten years ago or something ridiculous like that. I think there was sexual content in it and girls who were much too small as well? I don't think it was important though. Is current policy to axe it all anyway or just ignore it if people aren't being creeps?

Edit: Apparently it has clean releases, but not in English apart from the trial edition.

Edited by Arha on Aug 26th 2022 at 6:04:15 AM

Tonwen HoMM Fan from Axeoth Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HoMM Fan
#14470: Aug 26th 2022 at 7:00:57 PM

I'm kind of tempted to say to drop Anubis and the Buried Bone entirely.

The clean version is incomplete and it shows with how naked the trope page is.

The NSFW version is full of cub porn (furry equivalent of child porn).

Not my place to make a call, but it may be best to just sweep it away entirely.

"Grandmaster Combat, son!"
Rainbowdash55 Actually Inkling Studios, can't change my name from Hell, Michigan Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Actually Inkling Studios, can't change my name
#14471: Aug 27th 2022 at 1:32:54 AM

Yeah, made that page a few years ago (when I would make a page for basically anything...) so maybe it's for the best if that page is removed.

Edited by Rainbowdash55 on Aug 27th 2022 at 8:34:48 AM

I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#14472: Aug 27th 2022 at 3:59:18 AM

Curious?

If you want a thread to get more attention is it okay to bump it.

I don't think this film for example is any worse than a normal R rated film? And the person who made the page commented on it? So I would like to get more discussion flowing in.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#14473: Aug 27th 2022 at 4:41:54 AM

Does this example still count or we've established in CV Review that it doesn't?

Edited by Amonimus on Aug 27th 2022 at 2:42:31 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#14474: Aug 27th 2022 at 9:44:19 AM

[up] My vote would be to cull that example entirely since the comic’s page was removed for pedopandering.

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#14475: Aug 27th 2022 at 3:37:21 PM

Nana to Kaoru is apparently an ecchi BDSM manga starring two underage (barely, they're 17, but still) high school students. from what i can find, there's no actual sex or nudity explicitly depicted, but there's a lot of cheesecake and sexualization of these minors.

Edited by ChloeJessica on Aug 27th 2022 at 3:37:40 AM


Total posts: 14,910
Top