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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#14051: Sep 15th 2021 at 12:59:15 AM

If it is up for review, I would like it to be reviewed.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#14052: Sep 16th 2021 at 12:49:03 AM

Hello?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#14053: Sep 16th 2021 at 9:08:00 AM

Due to the changing P5 system there are many works on the report list that still haven't gotten a proper review. We need to be patient... and also figure out the new system so we can stop being patient sooner.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#14054: Sep 16th 2021 at 9:38:31 AM

Alrigthy.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
math3299 Since: Sep, 2015
#14055: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:18:33 PM

I raised this awhile ago but this page https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/IzukusProHeroHaremLife seems to be for a fic that’s basically just harem smut with an excuse plot. The page is getting quite large too.

I believe we should just purge it.

I mean just look at some examples from the drinking game page

Take a drink every time a sex scene happens.

Take another one if it happens right after the characters wake up.

Take another one if Izuku isn't involved.

Take a drink whenever Izuku uses a mating press on whoever he's banging.

Take another if his partner or someone else comments on his use of a mating press.

I mean come on. Take a drink whenever a mating press happens? How is this still on here?

Edited by math3299 on Sep 18th 2021 at 9:30:01 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#14056: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:29:58 PM

Isn't this character a young high schooler in canon?

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math3299 Since: Sep, 2015
#14057: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:30:14 PM

Yes that is their age in canon.

I really think we should just cut this now. So the page for this rule breaking fic doesn’t keep growing bigger while we reform the p5.

Edited by math3299 on Sep 18th 2021 at 9:34:01 AM

Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14058: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:41:53 PM

The fanfic says Izuku (and thus presumably everybody else as they're same age) is aged up to 20, so it isn't on the chopping block for pedophilia.

It is however totally porntastic. Search shows that it has popped up in the thread previously but there wasn't enough P5 active at the time to conclude it under the old system.

math3299 Since: Sep, 2015
#14059: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:44:52 PM

Again i think we should just cut it now and be done with it.

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#14060: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:49:12 PM

[up]Hmmm, it wouldn't be totally unprecedented: we already cut VideoGame.Paraphore without a formal P5 ruling (and VisualNovel.Euphoria, but that page was a stub anyway). I suppose we could follow what Wikipedia calls the "Snowball Clause": if a work page doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of surviving a P5 review, we can cutlist it.

Edited by rjd1922 on Sep 18th 2021 at 9:52:00 AM

Keet cleanup
math3299 Since: Sep, 2015
#14061: Sep 18th 2021 at 7:54:00 PM

Again a fanfic with a take a drink every time there’s a mating press drinking game is obviously not appropriate so i think it fits the snowball rule

Edited by math3299 on Sep 18th 2021 at 9:54:39 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#14062: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:16:43 PM

So long as we gather an actual consensus here for doing so, I approve.

Also, kill that fic.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14063: Sep 20th 2021 at 12:01:31 AM

You know, when we discussed replacing the 5P system (we are still waiting for the technical aspects to be implemented) I specifically had in mind that things like Again a fanfic with a take a drink every time there’s a mating press drinking game is obviously not appropriate so i think it fits the snowball rule would not be a sufficient argument.

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#14064: Sep 20th 2021 at 9:17:42 AM

[up]Because a work can be NSFW and still have a plot besides that, right? What we need to look at is the amount of NSFW content in the work and how old the characters are. The former seems to be what pushes this into iffy territory. Can we trope it without the entries getting overly lewd?

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CyberController Blitzy.... from Pride Ring Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
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#14065: Sep 20th 2021 at 9:50:14 PM

When I was browsing the wiki, I came across Game Over Tales Crouching Ostrich Hidden Vulture. It seems to be a pornographic snuff comic...

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#14066: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:09:38 AM

[up]Looks like a Joust parody with porn and snuff elements rather than pure porn.

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#14067: Sep 21st 2021 at 1:35:05 AM

re: Third Crisis, ive played it through, and it does have a plot that goes beyond just an Excuse Plot, but i would think it fails the "primary purpose" test. it never goes more than about fifteen minutes without a sex scene, and it's very clear that the plot serves the titillation, not vice versa.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14068: Sep 21st 2021 at 2:56:47 AM

Because a work can be NSFW and still have a plot besides that, right? What we need to look at is the amount of NSFW content in the work and how old the characters are. The former seems to be what pushes this into iffy territory. Can we trope it without the entries getting overly lewd?

Honestly, no. The main issue with arguments like the one I cited is that they are really superficial.

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math3299 Since: Sep, 2015
#14069: Sep 22nd 2021 at 11:32:44 AM

I mean if I remember correctly this is like the second time we’ve brought it up. I’m pretty sure we agreed the fic should go then. I think it got voted to be cut by one of the p5 back then. The only reason it wasn’t cut then was the lack of p5 activity

Edited by math3299 on Sep 22nd 2021 at 1:38:33 PM

worldwidewoomy (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: I miss my wife, Tails
#14070: Sep 25th 2021 at 10:11:43 PM

Hey, I just wanna say sorry in advance if I’m overstepping anything by posting here, but in reference to BLUE GUARDIAN: Margaret being discussed earlier in the thread:

I got the game recently (partially bc of reading the trope page for it >.>) and I can confirm that the game is, at the very least, softcore ryona (if “softcore ryona” is even a thing). Margaret asphyxiating is… “lovingly” rendered, to put it lightly.

On the other hand, the game thankfully doesn’t get heavier than it’s usual fanservice (aside from Margaret getting violated by certain enemies). Margaret very much averts Nipple and Dimed but her downstairs bits aren’t drawn, even in the nakey variants of all of the game over CGs. Then again, I haven’t gotten very far in the game yet so some of that may change. Just wanted to provide an input.

ETA: Also I’m personally side-eying the Nightmare Fuel entry that posits that Margaret herself has an asphyxiation kink because she looks like she’s pulling an ahegao face as the life leaves her eyes but I’m not sure if that should be scrubbed or not

Edited by worldwidewoomy on Feb 21st 2022 at 8:57:00 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#14071: Sep 28th 2021 at 12:09:53 AM

So uh - Dangerously Chloe. The description itself states the comic is borderline R for the amount of sex and nudity, and that most of the characters are minors. There are also multiple tropes listed about said minors in sexual situations.

I have never read this comic so maybe I'm misreading or don't have the full context, but the page in its current state is concerning.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#14072: Sep 28th 2021 at 6:35:24 AM

[up]The characters in sexual situations are older teenagers and up (or the equivalent for nonhumans).

It's very much an R-rated comic, but it's not cutworthy.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#14073: Sep 28th 2021 at 7:22:56 AM

My question then, is the intended audience teenagers?

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#14074: Sep 28th 2021 at 9:37:08 AM

Uh, pedopandering isn't the only reason to ban something. We also ban flat out porn. Which this may be.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 28th 2021 at 12:37:28 PM

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CyberController Blitzy.... from Pride Ring Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Blitzy....
#14075: Sep 28th 2021 at 9:46:42 AM

Pixie Trix doesn’t have explicit porn, if I recall correctly. Just sex comedy.

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