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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#12826: Nov 27th 2018 at 4:06:25 AM

Per mod discussion, the page has been cutlisted.

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#12827: Nov 27th 2018 at 4:56:24 PM

I see we also have pages on other creators primarily known for erotica, like Tom of Finland, Gengoroh Tagame, and Shintaro Kago. Are those OK?

I brought these things up in the Content Policy Discussion thread, but since nobody seems to check that one, I'll put them here:

  • There's a commented note at the top of School Days saying not to add tropes regarding Summer Days or Shiny Days due to site policy regarding underage content, but Shiny Days has a page. The Shiny Days page says underage sex scenes were removed from the English version, but JAST USA released a patch to uncensor the content, though Wikipedia makes no mention of such a patch.
  • We have a page on the eroge Castle Fantasia 2 Renewal, the Updated Re-release of the second game in the series, but not the vanilla version of the game nor the first game. Is it because other games in the series violate the content policy, or because that's the only one to receive a Fan Translation?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#12828: Nov 27th 2018 at 7:10:34 PM

[up] Unless there's a compelling reason to review them, I'm inclined to let those pages be. I'm familiar with Kago's work and while some of it is sexualized, it's so mindfucky and grotesque that any titillation factor is severely blunted.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#12829: Nov 27th 2018 at 7:41:46 PM

[up][up] With Tagame, the page doesn't trope any of his pornography, and he has a major non-pornographic work with its own page (My Brother's Husband).

Edited by TheMountainKing on Nov 27th 2018 at 10:42:16 AM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#12830: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:40:41 PM

Shiny Day's official release doesn't have sex scenes with the obviously underaged Kokoro. There's a patch that restores it, but it's not in the base VN. Another character, Setsuna, is in the 'short teen' range but definitely over 16.

As far as Baldr Sky goes iirc the "underaged" characters look and act like adults and the sexual content is a very low percentage of the work. I'm sure someone is going to disagree with this analogy, but it'd be like banning the book It because of one squicky sex scene near the very end.

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#12831: Dec 1st 2018 at 10:12:24 PM

[up] So should the comment at the top of School Days be changed to remove the mention of Shiny Days?

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12832: Dec 2nd 2018 at 12:05:36 AM

Why would it? The official release has nothing objectionable.

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#12833: Dec 2nd 2018 at 9:44:18 AM

[up] OK, I removed it.

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Assassin-sensei Since: Jun, 2014
#12834: Dec 4th 2018 at 4:54:57 AM

The reasoning we only have a page for Castle Fantasia 2 Renewal is simply because no one's made a page for the other games. They've never come before the P5 before.

Some of them do have a "Lolicon" tag on VNDB, which is the most concerning thing I see (albeit it's low down on the list like some people disagree/have voted it down).

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12835: Dec 13th 2018 at 1:17:09 AM

Since the page for

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/shadman_18751046.png

Has been cut, can I go ahead and Zap the report?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12837: Dec 13th 2018 at 1:28:34 PM

Done. Zapped the Nightmare Fuel Image links as well.

I hope the angel head thing can be fixed.

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12838: Dec 20th 2018 at 11:22:39 PM

Gonna take a look at Jiburiru.

Ok, looking at the disappearing Angel Head votes again. I can see them when I log out and view the page that way. Logging in makes them vanish again. I added that as a comment to my query report.

Also, if someone wants an easy vote, check out Brogulls. That's very obvious porn. Easy devilhead for anyone who wants to close it.

GreatKaiserNui Since: Feb, 2014
#12839: Jan 30th 2019 at 6:23:11 PM

Should Jail Bait remain a trope? I know the page is not encouraging it but the page image seems like it is passive-aggressively violating the anti-pedo rules.

Edited by Willbyr on Jan 30th 2019 at 8:53:59 AM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12840: Jan 30th 2019 at 10:17:29 PM

See, to me it looks like a good illustration of what the trope is about. Although a bit ... in your face.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#12841: Jan 31st 2019 at 6:07:24 AM

I made a page for Of Dumb Dumbs and Pussycats, which is a short Josie and the Pussycats fan-comic I liked the art-style of, and there are a three or four pages that are NSFW (how much I don't know but they're not allowed on Deviantart). I don't know whether the comic goes against the "no PWP" rule though. Four pages out of twenty+ seems like enough plot, right? I don't consider it lemony, just a comic with some NSFW parts.

GreatKaiserNui Since: Feb, 2014
#12842: Jan 31st 2019 at 7:32:23 PM

[up][up] I don't see it that way, that image is clearly sexualized and relies on the audiences interest in ignorance.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#12843: Jan 31st 2019 at 7:51:22 PM

I honestly don't have much of an issue with it, either.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#12845: Feb 10th 2019 at 7:03:07 PM

It's literally from a Cracked Photoplasty and Played for Laughs so it would be kind of dumb to claim it violates guidelines just because it might rub someone wrong.

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12846: Feb 16th 2019 at 11:58:21 PM

Angel head votes I can see now. They're tiny and squished, but I can see them. Hooray for maintenance.

rjd1922 Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular, from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Best robot boy | he/him | Image Pickin' regular,
#12847: Mar 1st 2019 at 11:46:02 AM

Legend of the Blue Wolves might need to be looked at. It was released by the adult label Critical Mass Video as Hot Space Cowboys, and MyAnimeList calls it hentai.

Edited by rjd1922 on Mar 1st 2019 at 1:46:39 PM

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#12848: Mar 2nd 2019 at 1:59:54 AM

IMDB doesn't have much but it note explicit sex scenes in the parental advisory and has Adult as one of the genre labels.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0832450/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#12849: Mar 2nd 2019 at 5:59:17 AM

Already was checked and passed a while ago.

Corvidae It's a bird. from Somewhere Else Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
It's a bird.
#12850: Mar 2nd 2019 at 8:29:27 AM

As far as I know, explicit sex scenes aren't usually an issue on their own unless that's all there is to a work, or if they include minors.

I'm not familiar with this work, but based on the trope page it seems to have a lot more stuff going on than just porn.

Edited by Corvidae on Mar 2nd 2019 at 5:30:42 PM

Still a great "screw depression" song even after seven years.

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