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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kukuku
#12451: May 17th 2017 at 7:55:09 AM

I think it's fair to say that Love at first bite's loving descriptions of bizarre, fetishistic sex in almost every chapter and overall focus on nothing but sex make it a pornfic.

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#12452: May 17th 2017 at 4:26:03 PM

Yeah, if something is just a series of detailed descriptions of weird sex acts, it shouldn't be here. Even if the point is to shock or offend rather than titillate conventionally, there's a point at which the *lack* of other content becomes the issue.

Which gets me to thinking about Pierre Guyotat's novel-length metaphorical diatribe/run-on sentence Eden Eden Eden, which I seriously doubt has a page here, but might be worth discussing. I think I've brought it up before...

edited 17th May '17 4:35:21 PM by JHM

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Siiiiiiiiiiiip
#12453: May 17th 2017 at 8:56:28 PM

To note, sometimes descriptions of works aren't all that well-written. I'd probably just give the fic a skim just in case. Maybe it's not as accurate as the description suggests. Maybe it is.

...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12454: May 21st 2017 at 1:11:36 AM

Alright, I'm giving Breakfast Club a Devilhead.

The Manga's sex scenes are a lot more spaced out than I initially thought. There's a good deal more plot to it rather than just a service to the porn scenes. The porn scenes themselves are fairly graphic and most of the characters in them are high schoolers (and while it does have that weird grey area of them drawn as adults, some are more explicitly drawn as teens). Adding the Devilhead for explicit underage sex designed to be fanservice.

Checking out Tales Of Schlock next.

Well, I found a comic on E Hentai of all places. The woman in it shares a name with my College district, Manoa. Hah. Neat.

Alright, easy Devilhead. This is very clearly purely pornographic. Explicit nudity, penetration, and a plot in the service to the sex scenes.

edited 21st May '17 1:26:37 AM by DrPsyche

Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kukuku
#12455: May 21st 2017 at 10:47:54 AM

Here's a recap of Love at first bite, for the sake of saving time and brain cells of the 5P:

Chapter 1: Girl gets kidnapped. No sexual content yet.

Chapter 2: This whole chapter is a blowjob scene.

Chapter 3: No sexual content other then adding semen to food (yes, I'm serious) and a reference to a couple about to have sex at the end.

Chapter 4: This whole chapter is a ridiculous sex scene.

Chapter 5: No sexual content, some thin plot development that was really just a lead-in for another sex scene.

Chapter 6: This whole chapter is a ridiculous sex scene. In a bouncy castle.

Chapter 7: Only references to interrupted sex. The story goes on a probably permanent hiatus here, though the author does promise "more lemons" if she ever comes back to it.

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."
DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12456: May 21st 2017 at 12:26:03 PM

What's the verdict? Sounds like a devilhead.

Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#12457: May 21st 2017 at 12:42:16 PM

*skims through anyway* Yeeep, just porn and setup for porn.

DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12458: May 25th 2017 at 2:01:20 AM

Alright, so looking at CaptainGerBear. The page itself is fine, and the proposal does have two angel heads. Not entirely sure how to judge a creators page so long as we're not troping the creator. And looking through the resolved section, his webcomic Grant got approved so I guess his page isn't for a creator who's body of work is entirely erotica that fails P5 criteria.

I'm still wondering how we approach this one though I lean toward angel heading him.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12459: May 25th 2017 at 2:10:31 AM

Maybe you could simply zap it for "no double jeopardy".

Also, there are a bunch of devilheaded items here which need to be checked off as "done".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#12460: May 25th 2017 at 3:31:01 AM

[up][up]I am of the opposing opinion.

His work is dominated by pornography and most of that page is devoted to documenting his tastes in porn as well as talking about works that by the sound of them would not pass P5 scrutiny.

Any works that aren't porn can have their own pages, but the overarching page would by exclusion be too porn-centric to have, so I put the devilhead on.

[up]"Double jeopardy" does not apply here because p5 does take repeat looks and re-votes on pages. Go for due diligence instead tongue

edited 25th May '17 3:36:27 AM by Adannor

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#12461: May 25th 2017 at 7:58:19 AM

Looking at the page as it exists, I don't see any pedo-pandering, or one-handed troping, and the examples are about his art style and writing style in general. I see no reason to cut the creator page.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#12463: May 26th 2017 at 3:07:30 PM

Cibus Esculentus Madoka Magica has two unresolved entries on the reports list, instead of just one?

So, do cut pages have their wicks cut as well? 'Cause Mekko Rarekko has 27 wicks left...

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12464: May 26th 2017 at 3:08:04 PM

We don't bother with wicks, really.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#12465: May 26th 2017 at 10:06:09 PM

[up]Well having entries detailing the sexual situations of a comic cut for being pedo, such as

Friends with Benefits
Buchi and Taishou's relationship from Mekko Rarekko is this. Whenever they have sex, its usually Taishou who's benefiting from it. They see themselves as Just Friends, but even though they have yet to admit it, they are secretly in love with each other.
maybe we should bother with the wicks.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#12466: May 27th 2017 at 5:39:44 AM

If nothing else, given their usual stated purpose to encourage making work pages, it's worth removing the redlinks.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#12467: May 27th 2017 at 10:23:08 PM

Since the policy is we can have examples of P5'd works on trope pages if they don't go into ridiculous amounts of detail or otherwise violate Content Policy, those that do should be edited or removed (depending). I don't think commenting out here would work.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#12468: May 27th 2017 at 11:20:31 PM

Removing the redlinks is the only necessary action - and that's largely a matter for Wiki Magic.

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
DrPsyche Avatar by Leafsnake from Hawaii Since: May, 2012
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#12469: Jun 11th 2017 at 8:34:09 PM

Ok, I couldn't really find all the much discussion about it by using the search function, but what are we judging about Literotica? Are we restoring the tropes list? Or changing it from a work page to something else? It has 2 angel heads already so I'm going to believe we can keep it around in some form or another.

YhiliniScribe Since: Jun, 2017
#12470: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:49:18 AM

Could someone please look at the last couple of reports? One of them does not seem to be a legitimate policy violation report ("this page is missing two types of films") and I'd like to hear a verdict on VideoGame.The Last Sovereign before I continue working on it.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kukuku
#12472: Jun 27th 2017 at 1:47:59 PM

http://thelastsovereign.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_Sovereign_Wiki

"By telling a story that has sex as an integral component, The Last Sovereign offers a deep storyline that naturally includes sex scenes. No need to grind for hours or lose to every enemy to find the content. Not only will you adventure in a world where sex is a weapon, you'll build a harem of fully-realized characters with their own reasons for being with you... in and out of the bedroom."

This looks like it's going to be a borderline. I figured it'd be similar to a lot of the visual novels we've passed, and in a way it's tamer in (currently) not having any illustrations for the sex scenes, but it appears to be quite sex-heavy and kinda plot-heavy.

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."
YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#12473: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:56:43 PM

Could The Opening of Misty Beethoven get a page? It's a classy movie.

Assassin-sensei Kukuku from Earth Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Kukuku
#12474: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:59:48 PM

[up] It's hardcore porn, which is sort of hard to justify. We don't have pages for Beyond the Green Door, The Devil in Miss Jones, Deep Throat, etc.

"A buddy is a buddy no matter how nutty."
YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#12475: Jun 27th 2017 at 3:02:35 PM

Awww, too bad. I wouldn't mind making pages for all those movies...


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