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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#9101: Sep 6th 2012 at 6:36:55 PM

@Kuro: Caligula was decided by Eddie fiat.

shadis Since: Jun, 2012
#9102: Sep 6th 2012 at 6:42:07 PM

I was under the impression that we already looked at Literature.The 120 Days Of Sodom, or did we just talk abut it and not do anything?

[up]This man(or woman) is correct.

edited 6th Sep '12 6:43:03 PM by shadis

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#9103: Sep 6th 2012 at 6:45:05 PM

Its main page is still cut, it's still on Pages Cut Under The Policy Change as Appealed, and it's not on the resolved list. Pretty sure no action has been taken on it.

shadis Since: Jun, 2012
#9104: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:02:55 PM

[up]Ah thanks.smile

Also any more talk of cut pages should probably go to the restoration petition thread.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#9105: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:08:18 PM

I flagged Hoshikawa Ginza District 4 which I just happened to come across recently while on a yuri manga kick. It's about a teacher who has a romance with her 13 year old adopted daughter, and from what I saw of it the teacher at the very least expresses a desire to have sex with her.

I'm pretty sure this is a content violation, but I'd like to see what others think. It can be read here.

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#9106: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:10:16 PM

It appears that someone has flagged Hoshikawa Ginza District 4. Is there anything I should know about this?

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#9107: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:13:17 PM

[up][up]Where's the offending content? I just glanced at the first chapter or so and I dragged a random review out of google, and it doesn't seem to be any more terrible then a Teacher/Student Romance.

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shadis Since: Jun, 2012
#9108: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:15:25 PM

[up],[up][up]volume 3 chapter 18 the older one starts groping the younger one.

Based on content policy I recommend exterminatus.

edited 6th Sep '12 7:16:26 PM by shadis

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#9109: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:20:05 PM

...I just read the chapter in question, and that scene described there was about as titillating as a pile of wet paper. Not to mention the surrounding pages were about a child discussing exams and college to her parental figure, so it's more random then anything.

We're gonna have to dig deeper here to decide it's to be shorn off.

edited 6th Sep '12 7:21:16 PM by Raidouthe21st

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#9110: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:21:36 PM

[up][up]I haven't gotten quite that far, but I know that in volume 1, chapter 3, the teacher declares (despite saying they can't do anything because of her age) "but I really want to have sex with Otome!".

Volume 1, chapter 5 has their first (non-chaste) kiss.

Volume 1, chapter 6 has the two bathing together, with the girl rubbing her body against her teacher's chest.

That's about as far as I'll get tonight. I can review more later on if necessary.

edited 6th Sep '12 7:21:56 PM by Meeble

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#9111: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:21:54 PM

Chapter 17 basically has 2 teenage girls having sex for a few pages.

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#9112: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:22:26 PM

[up]Theeeeeeeere we go, that's more like it.

edited 6th Sep '12 7:23:28 PM by Raidouthe21st

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#9113: Sep 6th 2012 at 7:22:42 PM

volume 3 chapter 18 the older one starts groping the younger one.

That's correct. Coupled with the younger girl apparently being only 13, I'm gonna have to give this a devilhead.

Edit: ... Er, make that "definitely gonna give this a devilhead."

edited 6th Sep '12 7:24:30 PM by Komodin

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tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9114: Sep 6th 2012 at 9:38:01 PM

I'll take a look tomorrow. I've been busy recently, though that should be coming to an end soon.

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#9115: Sep 6th 2012 at 10:20:58 PM

Sent an eval for Ken Park. Since it's written by Harmony Korine, king of exploiting young people in movies (i.e., Gummo), I get the feeling it'll stay gone, but I haven't seen the movie.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9116: Sep 6th 2012 at 10:34:22 PM

OK, looks like I'm having a movie marathon this weekend. Who all's in?

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LordCrayak Since: Jun, 2009
#9117: Sep 7th 2012 at 4:53:58 AM

Last time I looked, Vase De Noces was on You Tube.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9118: Sep 7th 2012 at 5:41:05 AM

Gave final devil vote on Hoshikawa for reasons above. That aside, there's also ethical concerns about student-teacher relationships but that has nothing to do with our criteria.

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#9119: Sep 7th 2012 at 6:30:05 AM

While I agree that it does not fit within our guidelines, Hoshikawa is not as blatant as the earlier posts imply. The girl looks a couple of years older than her actual age (or rather, over the course of the series she appears to age into what age she looks like), the kiss was, as aptly described earlier, "as titillating as a pile of wet paper", and the two sex scenes could barely even be called that: The former would have bored me even if both participants were in their twenties, while the latter (between the main characters) was a case of Fading To Black.

That said though, the former sex scene, as well as the latter half of the series in general (where both main characters are well-aware of what the other feels), lead me to believe that this indeed does pander to pedophiles.

I say all this not to change people's minds (as I agree with the verdict), but so that everybody knows better why the series falls afoul of our guidelines.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#9120: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:22:16 AM

I certainly didn't mean to imply that those scenes were more "sexy than a wet paper bag". I thought the way I described the scenes in question was pretty matter-of-fact.

It definitely wouldn't fly under the guidelines for "primarily porn", but to me it's obviously meant to appeal to those who enjoy age-gap romances, and the age of the younger partner in this case pushes it into violation of our guidelines territory.

edited 7th Sep '12 7:25:58 AM by Meeble

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#9121: Sep 7th 2012 at 10:38:02 AM

Oh God. Just God. There's NO WAY Vase De Noches will pass. There's no way I want you to watch it. I watched it and I can't get the images of a man fucking a pig - unsimulated - out of my head. Please, just watch, like, Anatomy of Hell, which is at least mind-numbingly stupid and distances itself from its more prurient aspects.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#9122: Sep 7th 2012 at 10:48:04 AM

Vase de Noces still has an uncut YMMV page though.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9123: Sep 7th 2012 at 11:31:37 AM

[up]I figure we can not worry about it until the works page is resolved. If vote is to cut, cut it then. Until then, leave it be.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#9124: Sep 7th 2012 at 2:36:20 PM

@9121: it's not about how disgusting the movie is; if it were, Pink Flamingos would have been cut.

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#9125: Sep 7th 2012 at 2:56:15 PM

...well that's a good point, but still, a man rapes a pig in an extended sequence. It's colloquially known as The Pig-Fucking Movie. It's not even in the same league as Pink Flamingos.


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