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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#9001: Aug 29th 2012 at 4:34:00 AM

Happy birthday, tgoodrich! Should the P5 forum pay your alcohol tab as a birthday present?

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#9003: Aug 29th 2012 at 8:10:03 AM

Have a good one, tgoodrich!

edited 29th Aug '12 8:10:16 AM by GameChainsaw

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#9004: Aug 29th 2012 at 9:04:23 AM

As if you needed another excuse to get inebriated, tdgoodrich1.tongue Happy Birthday.

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#9005: Aug 29th 2012 at 10:33:12 AM

Happy Bday goodrich!

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#9006: Aug 29th 2012 at 10:46:28 AM

Back on topic, since apparently no one has actually read through the Echoing Of The Fragile Wind Trilogy, I'll just do it myself. So far, after reading through the first two chapters of the first story, it seems to abide to our content policy. This story is a little boring, though; if the actual Naruto manga/anime is even remotely like this, then it's clearly not a work for my particular tastes.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#9007: Aug 29th 2012 at 10:57:21 AM

Just reading our sparse page I could tell you it isn't. Although, to some people, they may be of similar quality as of today. tongue

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9008: Aug 29th 2012 at 11:04:01 AM

[up][up]Meant to vote on that one. Read the first two stories a week or so ago, never voted. Angel for me as well. As an aside, the author doesn't realize that meta-humor is only funny when done well. He failed at it.

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NineThePuma Since: Feb, 2011
#9009: Aug 29th 2012 at 11:41:01 AM

First sex scene is in the second story.

No one has actually touched the third story, AFAIK.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#9010: Aug 29th 2012 at 1:19:23 PM

[up]Though that surely means the first story is discussable on this wiki, yes?

What's precedent ever done for us?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9011: Aug 29th 2012 at 1:20:44 PM

We were discussing that in the other thread; I think it is possible.

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#9012: Aug 29th 2012 at 1:51:40 PM

First sex scene is in the second story.

Negative; there's a sex scene in Chapter 3 of Truth in Flowers, the first story.

At any rate, with that part done, I can say that it's safe as far as our content policy is concerned. The other two parts, on the other hand, are being read through right now.

As an aside, I can also safely say that it's... pretty boring. Now I can see why almost nobody here actually read past Chapter 3 of Truth in Flowers...

edited 29th Aug '12 1:51:53 PM by Komodin

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#9013: Aug 29th 2012 at 8:39:07 PM

Update Re: Velvet Kiss:

Finished reading through it, will have decided and voted my 11:59 PM Friday Disclaimer 

As an aside: I actually rather enjoyed it. Regardless of which way I vote, let the record show that it has my approval as a work, content guidelines be damned.

edited 29th Aug '12 8:42:55 PM by tdgoodrich1

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#9015: Aug 30th 2012 at 1:44:46 PM

Prfnoff posted the works which were still listed on the "pending for perusal" sandbox in the content violations policy thread...figured this would be the place to put them. I'm not where I can check links to see what has been ruled on and what hasn't right now, but I'm reading Chimneyspeak and made the proposal for it, and from the little that I skimmed of it, Neo Armageddon Evangelist needs to die by fire.

  • Addergoole: page is pretty sparse (little more than a bare trope list), but does contain a lot of sex tropes.
    • Defense: While there are sex tropes involved, the story itself is not pornographic & the sex is a small part of a very large story
  • Batman In the Bowels of Hell: Porn with bare threads of plot
  • The Brown Bunny: Porn with Plot, but the only explicit scene is a blowjob scene.
  • Cats N Cameras: page says "NC-17 rated" and that it has "copious amounts of Fanservice."
    • Defense: "but has more plot that sex. It's just that when sex happens they don't skip past it."
  • Chester 5000 XYV: identified as erotic and explicitly sexual.
    • Defense: "Erotic, but deep and focuses more on showing how relationships develop and love than just on sex. Might qualify is borderline erotica, but wouldn't count as porn."
  • Chimneyspeak: Gory violence, nudity, non-explicit sex, page has links to artist's other NSFW (and much more porny) works. Child prostitution is referenced but not shown, and is a Berserk Button of one of the main protagonists.
    • Proposal: Cut all direct links, lock page.
  • Chintsubu: Described as "a manga about boys with talking penises", contains sexual humor involving possibly-underaged characters. The person submitting it does not know how explicit the manga actually is but still feels that it should be looked over. Context: Smutty gag comedy, characters are identified as second- and third-year high school (~16-18), but one is young-looking enough that the author feels the need to add a little "note: high school student" label during his first sex scene.
  • Chugworth Academy: stub article, but calls it a "sexist comic" and alludes to "sexual exploits."
  • Corruption Of Champions: Sex and fetish transformation game. The premise seems to involve rape a lot.
  • The Idolmaster: Several underaged characters depicted in sexualized fashion.
    • Defense: No actual sex is shown
  • IT: There's one particularly infamous scene where a bunch of underage kids have sex. The trope page mentions that they are so underage that it's highly unlikely that they could have even performed the sexual acts they're said to perform in the book.
    • Defense: This appears to be another test case of sorts of what is going to pass by this council, as IT is very much a legitimate work in the Stephen King collection of horror novels.
  • legolas by laura: Lolicon, according to the trope page (main character is 10).
    • Defense(?): The most explicit this gets is "and then one of the Orcs striped her and then he raped her". Not erotic in any way.
  • Lovemagic: described as an "adult webcomic" and "very NSFW"; apparently also contains Naughty Tentacles prominently in one section.
  • Neo Armageddon Evangelist Looks to be a porn fic centered around rape as a Deus Sex Machina, plus it seems some characters are under 16 when raped. Also has Naughty Tentacles involved. The recommendation for this fic was removed for the aforementioned reasons when the "no Lemon fics w/under-16 characters" was introduced.
  • Seikon No Qwaser: Borderline hentai with Audience-Alienating Premise (namely, that magic powers in this universe are powered by sucking on womens' breasts).
    • Defence: No sex at all, a heavily censored TV version is available that puts Censor Bars over any nudity and heavy on the plot.
  • Starfighter: page says "NSFW for graphic sex, but has a SFW filter page."— how do we handle these sorts of things?

edited 30th Aug '12 2:11:36 PM by Willbyr

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Something strange...
#9016: Aug 30th 2012 at 1:55:54 PM

The Mating Frenzy has already been resolved as "Not porn; keep".

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#9017: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:05:38 PM

[up] Thanks; struck it from the list.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9018: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:07:09 PM

bakemonogatari was also resolved to keep and I think Dumbledore's Army was viewed "not reviewworthy"

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#9019: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:07:15 PM

Bakemonogatari and Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai weren't voted on, but were looked at and decided to be safe.

Cannibal Holocaust was voted to keep since it's not porn.

And I don't think South Park really needs to be looked into.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#9020: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:11:52 PM

All those have been cleared from the list to here.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9021: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:13:00 PM

It and Corruption Of Champions was also dealt with as "not reviewworthy" and "cut" respectively.

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#9022: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:15:37 PM

I don't think Corruption Of Champions was voted on, I don't see it on the resolved list. It's still labeled Appealed in Pages Cut Under The Policy Change.

It'd still be an easy cut though.

Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#9023: Aug 30th 2012 at 2:38:58 PM

Yeah, COC is porn game.

>Lovemagic: described as an "adult webcomic" and "very NSFW"; apparently also contains Naughty Tentacles prominently in one section.

On a comic catalogue site... And by the looks of it the description is by the author herself...
Eh, it's short so a read through can be given easily.

Okay, looks like it's porn. Sex scenes are given just a couple setup pages each and are really the primary thing. Plot is kinda not-existent. Two out of five chapters are actually about them not banging each other, but those are just random gags.

  • Cats N Cameras: page says "NC-17 rated" and that it has "copious amounts of Fanservice."
    • Defense: "but has more plot that sex. It's just that when sex happens they don't skip past it."

Been awhile since I read it, but from what I recall I concur with the defence: there is only a little bit of sex, it was mostly off-panel. There is quite a bit of casual nudity from characters, but even that's not the main focus.

edited 30th Aug '12 2:50:50 PM by Adannor

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#9024: Aug 30th 2012 at 3:05:10 PM

Cats N Cameras isn't porn. It's just got a fair bit of nudity early on. Sex is off screen and there's been very little of either lately.

As for Love Magic, it's porn. There's no point to any of it other than sex.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#9025: Aug 30th 2012 at 3:07:36 PM

Due to an unforeseen change in plans I'll be out Saturday, and in today.

//As you were.

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen

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