The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

well that clears popotan right there. The anime at least is not about sex or pedoshit.

I assume you have seen it then?

I think the policy is stricter on pedo than it is on porn.

As in something can contain porn involving adults or over 16, but as long as it is Porn with Plot and the plot is equal to or more than the porn rather than being an Excuse Plot for the porn, it usually gets a pass.

Pedo is another matter entirely, zero-tolerance for it.

If I remember correctly anyway.

Yes it was on the on demand serves from my cable provider, which means its pretty clean right there they don't air crazy stuff on there, and it is pretty heavy in the fan service its all innocent or played for laughs.

edited 12th May '12 11:01:52 PM by GraySloth

"heavy in the fan service it all innocent" Can you clarify this please?

For the sake of accuracy:

• Works do not contain porn (unless there have someone looking at a Playboy, or something), they contain sex. A work can have porny elements, but you can't really say "this work has a little bit of porn in it".
• 16 is not the age we use for this, it is the age for fanfic recs.
• Porn with Plot is not a pass. Porn Without Plot is a cut. There's a difference.
• The barometer is not whether there is a greater plot to sex ratio. It's generally whether the work can stand on its own without the sex, or whether the work's primary purpose is arousal.

If I've wildly misinterpreted the general consensus here, I'm sure someone will let me know.

edited 12th May '12 10:52:21 PM by BadWolf21

Well I just watched the first episode of Popotan. It's ecchi and there was one panty shot from Mii, but I don't feel it's justified saying it's for paedophiles based just on that.

That sounds about right to me.

edited 12th May '12 10:53:08 PM by UltimatelySubjective

Mostly in the first few episodes of the series before the Cerebus Syndrome hit the main three girls (including Mii an 11 year old) are show nude bathing together and Anime Anatomy is NOT in effect, all there breast and nipples are clearly shown but not in a sexualized tone just a family bathing together, Mii does point out her A-CupAngst compared to her well endowed sister. And they is no sex in the whole series.

edited 12th May '12 11:03:11 PM by GraySloth

BTW, off topic, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PornWithPlot needs some cleaning now, especially since some of the works on there have been cut. Personally I think it should just define the term rather than have recs - recs there kind of invite gushing.

I see Ikki Tousen has been flagged. Guys, shameless fanservice alone isn't what we're looking to cut. It's been licensed by Funimation. I kinda doubt they license porn.

By the way, what's the verdict on Collar 6? I'm asking because it still has subpages.

edited 13th May '12 1:49:12 AM by lu127

Strike Witches and Dance In The Vampire Bund are both available from Funimation as well, and the former needed a separate thread to form a decision. Being a Funimation title isn't necessarily a free pass (though it probably would be if there's no young characters in the show).

In its own words, it's a "bondage fetish webcomic." With that, I'm kinda leaning towards giving it a devilhead.

BDSM... meh. Give me something more vanilla, please...

Also, to those who've read Decadent Habits, give me one good reason why I shouldn't give this a devil's head.

edited 13th May '12 2:53:33 AM by Komodin

Collar 6 is more "explicit" than Menage A 3 because it occasionally shows genitalia, even if the art style is more obviously cartoony. It's also not a sex comedy, although the BDSM elements are justified to some degree in-story.

edited 13th May '12 8:44:05 AM by Willbyr

Menage A 3 actually does show genitalia sometimes, I think exclusively female though. Not that shown genitalia is cut criteria anyway.

I can take a look at Popotan, if need be. Its ANN page sure isn't doing it any favors though. (lists objectionable content as "intense"). As has been said, being licensed and having an English release isn't a free pass.

@Komodin: Excuse me while I contact a few tropers who can give a better answer about it than I can...

Oh, Darkenning was the author of that, wasn't he? He isn't coming back, either way.

Deca is VERY much Porn with Plot, and is actually a deconstruction of a LOT of porn tropes, with the underlying 'moral' being playing them straight is a BAD, VERY messed up idea.

I cannot say Decadent Habits does not contain content that would be fit to cut. After all, it contains lemons involving Negi Springfield, age ten, several of those, and, well, if you've read its trope page, you should know that it's also the mother of all tangled family trees.

Most of the time, however, it's a mature story that goes on about the consequences that terrible choices, like raping your own children... and their children... and your siblings... and your siblings' siblings, it's sort of too complicated to go on about. Whilst I do not personally wish for it to be cut, I cannot say that it shouldn't be. Whether or not it's played for fanservice doesn't really matter in this case, does it?

Personally, my own vote would be against cutting it, as it's less about the pornography and more about the horrible consequences that the characters having those kinds of relationships has.

edited 13th May '12 9:10:26 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Evaluating Mitsudomoe by request here.

ANN lists objectionable content as significant, does not specify as to what type. Beginning evaluation now with ep. 4.

Update: Cruchyroll flags video as "inappropriate for some audiences". Reasons currently unknown.

Update the second: 2:16 and one of the students (Futaba?) just drew a picture of the (male) teacher as a naked woman. Not looking good already. Less than a minute later and a gratuitous pan of that same (very underaged) girl's cleavage.

edited 13th May '12 9:27:39 AM by tdgoodrich1

Decadent Habits is a no-brainer. There are explicit scenes of mother-son incest involving a ten year old, and it's clearly meant to be titillating. Nothing can redeem that.

If you think it's titillating, you clearly haven't read it. The descriptions are almost clinical.

Really? Man, and I thought my Fruits Basket fanfic was strange, but I shall start writing. A guy having kids by a mom and her daughter isn't so weird after that.

Martello: I Archive Binged Menage A 3. They certainly get close, but there's no explicit genitalia. It's always just hidden, or, worst case scenario, you have the impression of Barbie Doll Anatomy.

Okay, I've read the first chapter of Decadent Habits and I must say... it's wutdafuk-worthy.