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Hidamarii Since: Aug, 2011
#751: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:49:51 PM

She was naturally born. Her mother was an artificial being, she's nothing but an augmented human.

In Fate/Zero, she is 8. Fate/Stay takes place 10 years later. Do the math.

Throw in the "everyone is 18 rule" and because she's a year older, that makes her "19".

edited 25th Apr '12 6:50:29 PM by Hidamarii

encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#752: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:50:00 PM

[up] Can you politely read the trope page for Katawa Shoujo?

Getting erectile dysfunction from that game is a Memetic Mutation!!! There is no way the intention was to titilate.

As for Papa, I never watched it, but it's watchable on Crunchyroll, so it can't be that bad.

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Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#753: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:51:48 PM

[up][up]Actually, my point was "Why does it even matter what this girl's age is, the game's not pedo-pandering to anyone with her?".

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#754: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:52:36 PM

I suspect gauging the appropriateness of a given work by what other mediums are willing to show it may be a bad idea.

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#755: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:52:37 PM

Listen To Me Im Your Father has nudity in it? The most I remember is the oldest teen in her underwear.

Hidamarii Since: Aug, 2011
#756: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:53:07 PM

Let's not forget the repeated raping of a certain character from the age of 6.

mezzoguitar Mezzo Guitar from Here. Since: Sep, 2010
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#757: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:53:32 PM
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TheFoxsCloak Since: Mar, 2011
#758: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:53:56 PM

[up][up]Which was never shown on screen and most certainly not played for titillation.

edited 25th Apr '12 6:54:19 PM by TheFoxsCloak

Hidamarii Since: Aug, 2011
#759: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:53:59 PM

"Listen To Me Im Your Father has nudity in it? The most I remember is the oldest teen in her underwear. " Nudity covered by miniscule amounts of soap.

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#760: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:54:01 PM

..."Let's not forget the rape of a si"...Woooooooooooooow, really taking that part of Sakura's story out of context.

edited 25th Apr '12 6:55:41 PM by Raidouthe21st

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AnnoR "Of course, Satsuki-sama." from Honnouji Academy Since: Sep, 2010
"Of course, Satsuki-sama."
#761: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:54:03 PM

Which is played as one of the most utterly horrifying things(rightly so) and is never shown.

Your point falls flat.

Edit: Ninja'd a lot.

edited 25th Apr '12 6:54:20 PM by AnnoR

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Hidamarii Since: Aug, 2011
#762: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:55:57 PM

Just saying, you can't exclude on article that has this and that and then go on to keep others that could be worse.

Restoring Fate would be a good start.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#763: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:56:09 PM

"Your point falls flat" is a bit snipingish.

If your argument can stand on its own without the extra one-liner, I generally recommend omitting the extra one-liner.

shimaspawn MOD from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#764: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:56:14 PM

The rules specifically say we aren't going after works that have mainstream Western releases without really good reason. This includes anime. Please stop bringing up Sailor Moon, and Game Of Thrones. That's not what we're going after.

If something of similar levels of content like Kn J was cut, petition to restore it. It was probably just on the wrong index.

edited 25th Apr '12 6:58:45 PM by shimaspawn

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#766: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:57:02 PM

[up][up][up][up]...Did you miss the part where they already said, repeatedly, they were going to put Fate Stay Night and Fate Hollow Ataraxia back?

edited 25th Apr '12 6:58:07 PM by Raidouthe21st

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encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#767: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:57:46 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] It'll be put back. GROAN!!

... Damn Type-Lunatics.-_-

edited 25th Apr '12 6:58:36 PM by encrypted12345

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Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
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#768: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:58:36 PM

There is also an article on a VN known as Kawata Shoujo. That's specifically porn. Yet it remains. No only are the characters meant to be underaged, they are also disabled.
So many things wrong with this. First, the sex scenes are definitely secondary to the story, which is heavily character-driven and only includes sex as a relatively small component. Second, the characters are in their senior year of high school; I don't recall how many characters have an explicitly stated age, but it's a pretty safe bet that they're all at least 17.

Finally, is it supposed to be a mark against the game that the characters are disabled? Pretty much the whole point of the game is that, to quote its page, "People with disabilities are just that - people. Nothing more, nothing less."

edited 25th Apr '12 7:00:18 PM by Enthryn

AnnoR "Of course, Satsuki-sama." from Honnouji Academy Since: Sep, 2010
"Of course, Satsuki-sama."
#769: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:58:40 PM

Restoring FSN would be a very good start, yes, and I'm honestly not sure why it hasn't been restored yet beyond formality, which isn't a particularly good reason but I suppose that's just my opinion.

But you're really not helping it get restored.

"Oh, dear. The toad, the monkey, and the dog have all screwed up."
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#770: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:00:01 PM

I imagine that the pages to be restored will be restored under due process-no sooner and no later.

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#771: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:01:13 PM

@ Large Quagmire.

I really dont know the whole scope of the series... Youtube clips give me this and one or two episodes are up there too.

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AnnoR "Of course, Satsuki-sama." from Honnouji Academy Since: Sep, 2010
"Of course, Satsuki-sama."
#772: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:02:05 PM

That's kind of what I meant with the only reason being formality, but I digress.

Also, seconding the Katawa Shoujo point. They're all above the age of consent, and they sex scenes are hardly the main focus. There's a very, very defined plot.

"Oh, dear. The toad, the monkey, and the dog have all screwed up."
Hidamarii Since: Aug, 2011
#773: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:02:25 PM

Kawata Shoujo was originally penned for the principle of it being an eroge with disabled people because something like that was unusual to Western audiences when the project started picking up steam in 2007-ish. The original image by Raita didn't give any indications of plot. It was just characters for an eroge and that's what got people interested.

Giving it a full story and any of the "disabled people are just that" hoo-ha was an after thought to make it more than a few HC Gs with disabled teenagers.

edited 25th Apr '12 7:03:17 PM by Hidamarii

AnnoR "Of course, Satsuki-sama." from Honnouji Academy Since: Sep, 2010
"Of course, Satsuki-sama."
#774: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:03:33 PM

That doesn't change the fact that there's very much a defined plot that far, far outweighs anything H in it.

"Oh, dear. The toad, the monkey, and the dog have all screwed up."
encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#775: Apr 25th 2012 at 7:03:38 PM

[up][up] As much as I like to use Hanlon's Razor, I do believe that you're trolling.

Oh, final product is more important than inspiration.

edited 25th Apr '12 7:04:39 PM by encrypted12345

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