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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#26: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:55:52 PM

^ So how would you react if you were banned for something you weren't? (It doesn't have to be "a pedophile"—at this point, it could just as easily be "a goon.")

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#27: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:55:59 PM

ok

:(

[up]I hope they're unbanned. smile

edited 18th Apr '12 5:56:21 PM by Bookyangel2438

Alt account of Angeldog 2437.
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#28: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:56:46 PM

I wouldn't care.

All the people I really wanna talk to I can contact via E-Mail or HH.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#29: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:57:53 PM

^^ At this point, I don't think Ki TA would come back no matter what. My primary concern is for people who're still here, but who're under suspicion for whatever reason.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:58:02 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#30: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:00:24 PM

[up]Oh. sad

Well I can see why... sad

I hope that they feel better. smile

Alt account of Angeldog 2437.
YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#31: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:01:23 PM

Fast Eddie called him a pedophile and banned him for saying that Lotte no Omocha! wasn't a pedophilic work.

What.

Seriously, what.

The hell, man?

Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#33: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:09:52 PM

Well, Wikipedia has a page.

In the medieval fantasy world of Álfheimr, succubus princess Astarotte Ygvar, the first princess of the kingdom of Ygvarland (ユグヴァルランド Yuguvarurando?), has just reached the age of 10. For the coming years of a young succubus' life, it is necessary for them to have a male harem. In order to maintain their body and preserve their beautiful appearance, they must consume a substance only found on males. This substance is a liquid called Sauzfryma, better known as semen. The princess, however, bears a great dislike against men, and only agrees to create a harem if a human male is to join, as human males are said to be impossible to find. However, her followers are somehow able to find a human male named Naoya Tohara who, along with his daughter Asuha, is brought to the demon world to be part of Astarotte's harem.

Hmmm....

Sounds like a pedophile Excuse Plot to me.

edited 18th Apr '12 6:11:35 PM by inane242

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#34: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:11:35 PM

Paedoshit. Yeah, justified.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#35: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:11:45 PM

The work does an Author's Saving Throw later on — Lotte won't need to "consume" anything until she's older,

Oh! That's the anime where the 10-year-old needs jizz to survive...

when she initially goes through puberty she will merely have to kiss a guy to feed off them.

Still pretty bad.

Anyway, I feel that a work that portrays a child who literally needs the sexual contact of a man or a boy is creepy and sexist.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#36: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:12:20 PM

"Paedoshit" sounds immature and minimizes how disturbing this is.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#37: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:12:26 PM

"recognizing that Lotte needs a healthy male parental figure more than she needs a harem."

Yep, sexist.

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#38: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:14:09 PM

Like I keep saying, this isn't about the manga itself. It's been established that several people who actually read it don't think it's pedoshit, so whether it's ultimately judged to be pedoshit is only relevant to whether it should be allowed to have a page, not whether someone should be banned for saying it should have a page. (And again, it's not just about Ki TA.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#39: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:14:49 PM

Better to go on a five-paragraph tirade?

I express my anger plenty as it is. Everyone knows how terrible paedophiles are. Everyone. I see no need for me personally to remind everyone of that.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#40: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:15:20 PM

whether it's ultimately judged to be pedoshit is only relevant to whether it should be allowed to have a page, not whether someone should be banned for saying it should have a page.

How so?

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#41: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:15:38 PM

Can we change "how terrible pedophiles are" to "how terrible unrepentant child molesters are?"

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#42: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:16:04 PM

Sure.

unrepentant

Provided you scratch that.

edited 18th Apr '12 6:16:33 PM by inane242

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#43: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:16:20 PM

^^^ Because if several people who read it thought it wasn't pedoshit, then it occupies a gray area. Discussion of the gray area should not be a bannable offensive. (Ki TA wasn't the only person who argued against its removal—in fact, I can't think of anyone who'd actually read it and did argue for its removal.)

edited 18th Apr '12 6:16:39 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#44: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:16:36 PM

'k. So long as everyone is on page with that I am fine.

^^I refuse. So long as the repent and reform they are fine. As are all criminals. They may not be removed from prison, but they are not monsters.

edited 18th Apr '12 6:17:13 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Loid from Eastern Standard Time Since: Jun, 2011
#45: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:17:20 PM

Why not just unrepentant pedophiles?

"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantom
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#46: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:17:20 PM

KOMODO NO JIKAN IS NOT A PEDOPHILIC WORK.

Now I've contested it, so it falls in a grey area. grin

Yeah, no.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#47: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:18:02 PM

That doesn't specify them having acted yet, Loid. While I may not like their not repenting their feelings I cannot in all honesty say I would like a person jailed for their thoughts.

edited 18th Apr '12 6:18:36 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#48: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:18:30 PM

^^ You're joking. Several people were not. (Actually, several people were not joking that KNJ is not pedophilic, so I also think people shouldn't be banned for arguing that it's not pedophilic—although the page can still be removed if the P5 ultimately decide that it's pedophilic after all.)

edited 18th Apr '12 6:18:40 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#49: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:18:55 PM

Well, I'm rather not ok with people who are completely ok with their desire to molest children.

P5?

edited 18th Apr '12 6:19:30 PM by inane242

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#50: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:19:32 PM

@Aon: Let's keep that particular derail out of this thread. (I have reasons to agree with you, but it'll only start a flame war and get this thread locked.)

^ The P5 is the group of people who're in charge of determining which works are pedophilic (though they'll open up topics to general discussion if they're unsure.)

edited 18th Apr '12 6:20:25 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful

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