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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#1: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:25:25 PM

This post was inspired primarily by a hysterical email Ki TA sent me after Fast Eddie called him a pedophile and banned him for saying that Lotte No Omocha wasn't a pedophilic work. It was also influenced by a mod's (who shall remain anonymous) assumption that, since Lebrel said that shota isn't legally child porn, and that calling it child porn could bring the FBI down on us for "hosting child porn," she must be a pedophile. In general, it's a consequence of the recent atmosphere of fear.

I know of one pedophile in the history of TV Tropes. That person was banned, and I'm not complaining about that. But when people who aren't [X], for any value of [X], need to fear that they might be accused of being [X] and banned, that creates resentment, and resentment drives people away. This wiki can't function in such a state.

I have no idea whether I'm even allowed to make this thread. If it's locked or purged, I'll shut up. But I do think we could all benefit from a proper discussion. (Although most of this has been going on in Wiki Talk, I made this in Yack Fest because it's less formal and arcane, and I think we need to discuss this informally.)

edited 18th Apr '12 5:25:54 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#2: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:26:35 PM

I could think of 3.

inb4 nuke.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#4: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:30:49 PM

If anything,it doesn't see like there are paedo tropers as much as tropers who haven't read works defending them on principal.

I dunno if actually looking at any would change their minds as to their worth, but I hope it would.

Oh, and come to think of it I can think of one more. Only one of the ones I can think of still posts here.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#5: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:36:23 PM

Oh no! sad

I could also draw a witch hunt thing here, but whatever. tonguetonguetongue

Who's KiTA?

edited 18th Apr '12 5:37:58 PM by Bookyangel2438

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#6: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:38:03 PM

Except witches aren't real.

And neither were the secret communist infiltrators.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#7: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:39:46 PM

[up]surprised

Secret communist infiltrators? surprised

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#8: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:40:04 PM

And why did we have pages on all this crap while we still don't have pages on any number of more important things?

I've tried to remedy the Wikigroan, but I'm really bad at writing articles. ._.

[up]Army Mc Carthy hearings, I was shooting down another argument before it showed up.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:40:52 PM by inane242

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#10: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:42:41 PM

Why do you slap smiles on everything?

Wikigroan is where a Wiki is missing important articled while having absurdly extensive ones on less important things.

Compare these pages: My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic & One Hundred Years Of Solitude.

groan yet?

edited 18th Apr '12 5:42:54 PM by inane242

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#11: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:42:43 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by moderation to preserve the dignity of the author.
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#12: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:43:13 PM

>Witches aren't real

Um. . .

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#13: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:44:24 PM

While "that certain substance" is by far the most potent source of male essence, she simply won't need that until she's far older.

Dear god in heaven WHY THE FUCK?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[up]Well, there weren't women making pacts with the Devil in Salem. You get my point.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:45:06 PM by inane242

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#14: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:46:31 PM

Thanks.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#15: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:46:31 PM

Oooh, i see, it's a "Deconstruction" (*THAT'S NOT WHAT THE WORD MEANS*), so that makes it ok.

NOT

[up]Yeah, should have thought that out better, sorry.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:47:13 PM by inane242

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#16: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:47:09 PM

I'd like to not make this about the merits of this particular manga (although most of the people I've talked to who've actually read it called it Better Than It Sounds.) This isn't just about Ki TA anyways—it'll also be about Lebrel if she gets banned, or Catbert if he gets banned, or even Condotierra (though granted, Condotierra might get suspended just for freaking out and clogging threads with unnecessary posts, as Lola got banned for freaking out in the opposite direction.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#17: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:48:17 PM

@10: I like smilies... sad

@11: Oh no! sad

That sucks. sad

Why would FE do that?????? sad

[up]I hope no one else is unjustly banned...

edited 18th Apr '12 5:49:10 PM by Bookyangel2438

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spasticgecko Dat Troper from Maryland Since: Oct, 2011
Dat Troper
#18: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:49:30 PM

I still don't see what's wrong with having pages on this stuff :| It's gross, but it's media. Random porn/near-pornographic work doesn't bother me as much as Lolita did, but really?

Also, while pedophilia is certainly not a desirable trait in your community members, I hardly think it's a bannable offense. And that's if they actually are and not just mistaken for it due to hysteria.

Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#19: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:50:16 PM

[up]That makes sense, but it's FE's site, so we can't do anything about it. :|

Also, what did the email say?

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#20: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:51:12 PM

^ Come to think of it, the email is the one document Ki TA didn't show me. I'd like to see it—it could explain some things.

Edit: Forgot to mention—Ki TA also pointed out, in one of the purged posts, that one of the posters in that thread was simultaneously bragging on Something Awful about successfully trolling us. I emailed him back to find out the name of that poster—if he tells me who, I'll try to get that person banned.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:52:12 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#21: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:52:03 PM

Oh noes, getting banned from a website is terrible!!!!!!!!!! D:

Seriously, it happens. Roll with it.

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#22: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:52:25 PM

[up][up]Huh. surprised

The content policy thread? Also which user? surprised

[up]:(

edited 18th Apr '12 5:52:57 PM by Bookyangel2438

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#23: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:52:52 PM

I think getting called a pedophile is pretty terrible in and of itself . . .

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#24: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:53:16 PM

Name calling in general is mean... sad

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
Anwalt der Verdammten
#25: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:54:06 PM

By a person. On the internet. Not under your real name.

If it was someone calling you a paedo on Facebook maybe, but over an E-Mail or on an anonymous forum?

Sometimes you're treated like shit, sometimes life isn't fair. Deal.

edited 18th Apr '12 5:54:39 PM by inane242

The 5 geek social fallacies. Know them well.

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