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tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
R.I.P 2 My Youth
#201: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:12:12 PM

Could we also have it linked on the cutlist page as well so non-forumgoers are aware of the appeal process?

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#202: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:12:27 PM

[up][up][up]grabs giant plastic mod hammer and mashes Pyrite's fingers with it.

Of course not darling. Oh, I'm sorry, is that blood?

[up]Good idea, I'll ask. FE's to do list is currently as long as the equator but I'll ask and then run.

edited 16th Apr '12 5:14:13 PM by blackcat

LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#203: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:18:38 PM

Really not sure where else this should go, but Mai Chans Daily Life kept switching from red to blue to red over the course of the day and a whole mess of its sub-tropes are still up and running. ??

edited 16th Apr '12 5:18:49 PM by LargoQuagmire

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#204: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:22:37 PM

By sub-tropes I assume you mean sub-pages and are if you are making an appeal please state why the page should be restored. You can edit your previous post.

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#205: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:22:52 PM

I've been gone most of the day What have I missed since like page 5

Rarely active, try DA/Tumblr Avatar by pippanaffie.deviantart.com
EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#206: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:22:54 PM

nvm... ninja'd anyways...

edited 16th Apr '12 5:23:08 PM by EarlOfSandvich

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#207: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:23:21 PM

No, I'm definitely NOT making an appeal, I just have no idea how to red-link them myself and I can't tell if someone's trying to remake it or not.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#208: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:26:33 PM

The Equator circles back around on itself...

Ahem. The 120 Days Of Sodom is not really porn, it's kinda art; it can be taken as an exploration of evil, or of freedom, not unlike The Stranger.

edited 16th Apr '12 5:27:08 PM by HersheleOstropoler

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#209: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:27:09 PM

You can't redlink the pages, they have to be cut. I'm not recommending that you cutlist the sub-pages yet.

Let's keep this thread dedicated to page restoration petitions and associated list making and keep the chit chat in one of the sixty zillion other threads out there.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#210: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:43:48 PM

I haven't seen A Serbian Film, but I've read critical arguments for why it shouldn't be dismissed. Cases in point.

Yamatogawa writes hentai, but some of it's more objectionable than others. Power Play was probably the most objectionable work described on the page, whereas Witchcraft might be worth discussing.

Virgin Night is usually classified as hentai, but it's closer to romance with sex in it. (In general, works by Tanaka Yutaka are less sexually explicit not just than most hentai, but than the more extreme Ecchi. To my knowledge, however, this is his only work that was cut.)

The plot of Kite involves sexual abuse of a minor, but the abuser is one of the villains. (This is another show I haven't seen, but here are some relevant articles.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#211: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:48:13 PM

Alright, guys, the namespaces should all be visible now. I'd considered changing it that when I was putting the page up, but decided I didn't feel like it after I'd already added all the bullet points.

And the list has been updated to reflect that those [up] have been appealed.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#212: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:53:29 PM

Forgot to mention Living With Monster Girl. It's clearly hentai, but, for lack of a better term, it's cute hentai. (It's all about sex as part of loving relationships—albeit somewhat deviant relationships—and how the couples work around their differences.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
arcsquad12 The Inheritor from Monument of Sins Since: Feb, 2011
The Inheritor
#213: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:02:02 PM

But that's still porn.

Do not be so quick to make foolish offers, Daemon. Araghast too once thought I would be an asset to his cause. Look what has become of him.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#214: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:05:07 PM

^ It's pure, unadulterated Sweet Dreams Fuel. Seriously, just read it—it's short, and I don't think you'll find it objectionable.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
djmaca Secret Character from Philippines Since: Apr, 2010
Secret Character
#215: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:07:56 PM

[up]It's like Sankarea with sex. It isn't offensive.

edited 16th Apr '12 6:10:13 PM by Willbyr

...a little brother should belong to his older sister, right? - Orimura Chifuyu
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#216: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:10:09 PM

^ I wouldn't make that analogy, since Sankarea arguably is offensive (albeit not extremely so.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Akagikiba Surfing the forums from Midwest Since: Feb, 2012
Surfing the forums
#217: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:10:14 PM

I'd recommend against appealing works you haven't seen.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#218: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:12:41 PM

I have a feeling no one will show up who's actually seen those works.

Edit: Just got a PM telling me I shouldn't be calling this stuff porn if I want there to be any hope of it being restored. One thing I'd like to establish is that I'm not calling it porn (which is a genre), but hentai (which is primarily a marketing classification.) Some works are marketed as hentai that aren't porn, and some works aren't marketed as hentai that are. (That said, it would be silly to try to argue that a hentai work should be kept because it's not really hentai, rather than because it's marketed/classified/whatever as hentai without really being porn. If we refuse to have hentai, as well as refusing to have porn, I'm not going to stand in the way of that.)

edited 16th Apr '12 6:20:29 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#219: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:28:01 PM

If the hentai is porn, it is porn. This is not about semantic quibbling.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
djmaca Secret Character from Philippines Since: Apr, 2010
Secret Character
#220: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:28:36 PM

[up][up] All of Yamatogawa's works are meant to be porn. If we are cutting hentai works, Yamatogawa's has a very slim chance.

I should know: I had read his works.

edited 16th Apr '12 6:31:55 PM by djmaca

...a little brother should belong to his older sister, right? - Orimura Chifuyu
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#221: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:31:23 PM

^^ The whole point is that some hentai isn't porn, and conversely, some porn isn't hentai.

(Though I'll only make that defense for LWMG and Virgin Night. If we're deleting any and all porn, Yamatogawa will have to go, since fetishistic content is the primary focus, even if his works usually have decent stories as well.)

edited 16th Apr '12 6:34:26 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#222: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:34:13 PM

Cartoon porn made on Japan is still porn.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
djmaca Secret Character from Philippines Since: Apr, 2010
Secret Character
#223: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:34:26 PM

[up][up] I find that wrong. Maybe you are talking about doujins?

Anyway how are we going to know any progress with the council Eddie? Are they going to post every desicion they'll be making?

edited 16th Apr '12 6:34:49 PM by djmaca

...a little brother should belong to his older sister, right? - Orimura Chifuyu
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#224: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:38:32 PM

I'll illustrate my point with the reverse, using a page I consider expendable—My Balls is often called porn, but because it's marketed as a sex farce, it's not classified as hentai. (I don't consider it porn, since its primary purpose is to make the reader laugh rather than to titillate the reader, but I wouldn't shed a tear if we removed the page for it.)

Conversely (because it's bound to be noticed at some point, and better for it to be mentioned now than later), My Lovely Ghost Kana is a work that primarily focuses on the romantic relationship between two characters, and includes sex only as it relates to the development of that relationship, but it was marketed with a focus on the sex scenes, so it does get called hentai.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
djmaca Secret Character from Philippines Since: Apr, 2010
Secret Character
#225: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:40:26 PM

[up] So Plot With Porn?

...a little brother should belong to his older sister, right? - Orimura Chifuyu

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