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If everybody gets unexpected PMs, I imagine a lot of people will make threads to ask about stuff. It happens. Will probably happen moreso if every single account gets a PM notification like that. It'll look out of the blue to some people, and those who don't know how to find anything will likely just tsart a thread to ask.
edited 18th Apr '12 4:19:28 PM by ThatHuman
somethingI don't like getting mass PMs about things I already know, or don't care to know. Seriously, there's probably a lot of people who only do minor stuff like spelling and grammar, whose editing won't be affected by policy change. And anyway, how will a mass PM be less problematic than headline announcements have been? From what I can tell, headline announcements have caused prblems, and it's not just due to their shortness.
edited 18th Apr '12 4:38:20 PM by ThatHuman
something^ The statement has repeatedly been that informing everyone causes everyone to panic. The counterargument has repeatedly been that not informing everyone causes them to panic slightly later, when they find out a garbled version of the changes on their own.
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First page of this thread,
this post.
Mass announcements might make things seem like a bigger deal than they actually are, and confuse/worry people who aren't actually affected.
edited 18th Apr '12 4:47:57 PM by ThatHuman
something^ Pretty much everyone who uses the wiki was affected by either the porn purge (which could potentially purge a lot of stuff that isn't actually porn) or the nightmare fuel purge (since so many works had nightmare fuel pages.)
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Well, not everybody does edits audience reactions, and there are lots of works entirely unaffected by this porn issue. For me, Nightmare Fuel pages have been "stuff I'm not gonna look at anyway".
edited 18th Apr '12 4:54:13 PM by ThatHuman
something@That Human The first page of that thread you linked to is nothing but people painfully reinventing the 'PM to logged-in editors' idea.
This should go with out saying, but I fully oppose any 'the proletarians don't need to know' type arguments. This site needs to trust its editors more, not lock them out of the loop.
The porn purge will get announced once all the tech is ready for the council (i.e. when the influx of panicky people can actually appeal cuts instead of spam all relevant threads about how it isn't fair that they can't do anything about it). As for Nightmare Fuel...I actually don't know why that one wasn't headlined. The fix only took a few minutes, so it's not like there was time for a bunch of pointless whining to gum up the works and drown out any useful feedback.
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It's not exactly locking anyone out of the loop since everything can be found somewhere. There's no such active suppression of info. Administrivia pages get updated accordingly, and so on.
edited 18th Apr '12 5:00:26 PM by ThatHuman
somethingThis stuff is not exactly "hidden". If anyone needs to be updated on wiki issues, they'd have found a way themselves. And people who don't care would only be bothered when they get PMs. And anyway, do other wikis leave a notice for every single person every time a major change happens? For MediaWiki sites, that would be like having a bot go to every single User Talk page and leave a notice. I'm pretty sure other wikis at most have a little announcement section, and doesn't force the information upon everybody with an account.
edited 18th Apr '12 5:06:05 PM by ThatHuman
something^^^^ The sooner they're informed, the more time they have to stop being panicky people and start being prepared people. The more prepared people we have, the less likely it is that a good page will be cut due to bad arguments made in haste.
^ Every single person I've informed about this change has wanted to know about it. Most have been angry they weren't informed sooner.
edited 18th Apr '12 5:05:41 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful^^ It's been said that this is not how Wikipedia does it. With that in mind, what wikis are you specifically referring to?
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