Does this include Plot With Porn? In other words, are all works with any explicit sex whatsoever out, or just Porn Without Plot?
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I think their issue is that we can't trope things just because they have porn or paedophilia in them, regardless of other applicable tropes.
edited 14th Apr '12 2:54:37 PM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman@ Enthryn 164 It changed at the beginning of this thread. The name of this thread is "Content Policy Change," after all.
Anyway, I would suggest the committee work in secret, but have a period of public review. At this point, the discussion thread will be made public, so everyone can see that there are no conspiracies against their favorite work. That way, we don't get the general public clogging up the thread, but they get to see the committee's reasoning and object to any errors they may have made. If there is incontrovertible evidence of a mistake, the decision is reversed. No harm done. Any reversal is solely at the discretion of the committee. That's just my two cents anyway.
edited 14th Apr '12 2:57:18 PM by Chimaera
Well that was like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole where "mole" is defined as "Cthulhu". -Count DorkuI think comprehensiveness should be brought up. I feel like every cut damages our ability to be comprehensive and erodes the power of There Is No Such Thing As Notability.
Works that serve no purpose but jack-off material? Yes perhaps they need to do, but something where sex is a strong theme or a central idea, maybe even that was intended to arouse, but still posses a plot? That shouldn't go, in my opinion.
edited 14th Apr '12 2:58:51 PM by MarqFJA
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I honestly think most of the streamlining has been GOOD for the Wiki. Fetish Fuel and Troper Tales were terrible at the end.
edited 14th Apr '12 2:58:55 PM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial FlameI actually don't mind the purging of porn, mostly from the reason of the fact of "Why on God's Earth did someone think making a page for {insert something here} would be a good idea?!" but some people would argue of "Don't Like? Don't Read!".
However, I think there's a solution to this: We move this crud to another wiki. Eddie can clean up house, and complainers would still find the works page on another place. Everyone wins?
edited 14th Apr '12 2:58:26 PM by Psyga315
@The One Who Tropes
I was not part of the Fetish Fuel discussion, however I maintained, and still maintain, that cutting Troper Tales was a mistake.
edited 14th Apr '12 3:00:41 PM by LMage
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Like contradictions with policy and opinions.
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I think Troper Tales should have never been cut.
edited 14th Apr '12 3:01:11 PM by Bookyangel2438
Alt account of Angeldog 2437.Troper Tales, while I did like some of it, was kind of hurting us badly, so it needed to go.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.@Psyga: Fetish Fuel Wiki had it's Panty Shot article cut by a Wikia Community Member for "hosting underage content". I wouldn't hold high chances of a Hentai/Porn Tropes Wiki surviving.
edited 14th Apr '12 3:05:16 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Um, no. All you need is a troll or hater cherry-picking the worst scene out of a mostly-non-sexual work and claiming it's representative.
Informed decision-making requires actually being informed, not making one-minute skims of one paragraph. It's especially problematic to do this without even looking to see if there are tropers who have read/watched the whole thing. Of course their descriptions of particular scenes should be fact-checked against the actual work to determine their reliability as sources. But there is no substitute for being familiar with an entire work and knowing whether it is all about porn and pedo or merely contains a little sex here and there.
I'm with Vyctorian that this wiki should not demonize sex. However, I would not at all miss porn that is purely porn.
edited 14th Apr '12 3:12:36 PM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.@ Chimaera
I am not the one that brought it up, I was merely responding in so far as to defend my position that cutting hurts this wiki like chemotherapy hurts the human body, if it's necessary fine, pump away, but if their is question it's better to err on the side of caution.
edited 14th Apr '12 3:05:53 PM by LMage
My begging of everyone not to talk about TT continues.
However, on another topic, I'd like to know why All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles was cut, considering it isn't a pornographic trope in nature, nor one common in pornography. It references pornography, yes, but I don't think it's any more objectionable than, say, Porn Stash.
Well that was like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole where "mole" is defined as "Cthulhu". -Count Dorku

There is no conflict with the site's mission. Nowhere in there does it say anything at all about cutting porn.
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