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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#501: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:08:52 PM

I still say we link off to wikipedia in cases where they have an article on it.

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setnakhte That's terrifying. from inside your closet Since: Nov, 2010
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#502: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:09:27 PM

[up][up]Not doing anything is not an option on the table. Works will be cut, and rules will be changed. And this will probably be for the better.

e: [up]Why? how would that be better?

edited 14th Apr '12 10:10:37 PM by setnakhte

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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#503: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:09:54 PM


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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#504: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:10:00 PM

Vyc, the problem is that there's unlikely to be the same level of disagreement on what constitutes "people" or "ingredients." A better analogy would be a site taking down recipes that are bad for kids.

No one is saying "it is good for TV Tropes to cover porn/pedoshit"; very few people are saying "TV Tropes should cover porn/pedoshit"; the battles are over what is and is not porn and pedoshit.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:14:15 PM by HersheleOstropoler

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encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#505: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:10:26 PM

People are saying that this site is broken so people are fixing it.

EDIT: Ninja'd

edited 14th Apr '12 10:11:13 PM by encrypted12345

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RagnaTheSaviour Since: Oct, 2011
#506: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:10:36 PM

[up][up][up][up] Define better.

[up] I didn't see any problems with it before hand.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:11:11 PM by RagnaTheSaviour

setnakhte That's terrifying. from inside your closet Since: Nov, 2010
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#507: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:11:47 PM

[up]Well, less attractive to Pædos for starters, I'd say that's better.

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encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#508: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:12:12 PM

[up][up] I don't either. Other people are seeing them. Whether we don't or do is irrelevant at this point.

[up] Was this site attractive?

edited 14th Apr '12 10:13:23 PM by encrypted12345

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RagnaTheSaviour Since: Oct, 2011
#509: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:13:37 PM

[up][up] Dude... dude.. you're giving TV Tropes WAY WAY WAY too much credit. There are hidden and illegal sites for that kind of shit man, this.. isn't one of them.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:13:54 PM by RagnaTheSaviour

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#510: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:14:20 PM

Ever time I hear broken I think of the NSFG wall.

Also how it would be better for one were not hosting it for two people can't cry censorship as loudly.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:15:15 PM by Vyctorian

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SimplyDavid Loli Psychometer Level 7 from BABEL Since: Nov, 2011
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#511: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:15:21 PM

I had no problems with the site before either.

"Not attracting Pedos". What? What does that even mean I don't even...

In any case, if we're reducing the pedo stuff, then it's kind of obvious that we only remove things that have actual sexual interactions with children. Is that so hard? Give it to me straight where the dividing line is that's causing the confusion and I might find the right grey area where everyone agrees.

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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#512: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:15:25 PM

I don't think we were drawing nearly as many pedos as we were concern trolls and griefers saying "oh, yeah, pedos love TV Tropes."

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#513: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:15:29 PM

@508 - Apparently it was. I didn't think so before, and I didn't see why Something Awful were making such a big deal over there, but now that I've actually started looking for it, yeah, there was some pretty fucking horrible shit here. On the Bigger Is Better in Bed page, there was a pretty explicit description of how that worked in a lolicon/shotacon hentai. And the "work" was described using those exact words. The former "trope" of O Ring Orifice was referenced. You can fill in the blanks.

And that's just one example.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:15:52 PM by Martello

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RagnaTheSaviour Since: Oct, 2011
#514: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:17:12 PM

It seems to me this entire thing is fueled by paranoia. Google Images hosts more shit like that than TV Tropes does. Perhaps even worse... so...

encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#515: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:18:17 PM

[up][up] That's actually quite humorous.

While it's just a Vocal Minority, it's annoying enough to complain about.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:18:29 PM by encrypted12345

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#516: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:18:32 PM

[up][up]This is just what Eddie wants he is standing on a matter of principle like all of us here. Even if those principles may be different.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:18:56 PM by Vyctorian

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setnakhte That's terrifying. from inside your closet Since: Nov, 2010
That's terrifying.
#517: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:18:50 PM

[up][up][up]But we are not Google.

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RagnaTheSaviour Since: Oct, 2011
#518: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:19:21 PM

[up] No, but the reason Eddie is doing this is because of the cut funding, right? Because we were housing inappropriate content?

edited 14th Apr '12 10:20:04 PM by RagnaTheSaviour

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#519: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:20:17 PM

@encrypted - What's humorous? Pedophile hentai?

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
SimplyDavid Loli Psychometer Level 7 from BABEL Since: Nov, 2011
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#520: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:20:25 PM

@Martello: Honestly, the difficulty in finding such things here on TV Tropes is hardly worth the trouble if one were to try it somewhere else...

If you turn off the safesearch on google image, you'll find it on accident, no trying needed. Now actually put in some effort.

Though, again, this seems to not be the issue any more as the Ones At the Top have already deemed it necessary to do something.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#521: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:20:37 PM

[up][up][up]I don't know anymore. sad

Now it's more about opinions rather than funding.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:20:44 PM by Bookyangel2438

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encrypted12345 Since: Jun, 2010
#522: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:20:49 PM

[up][up][up][up] It's his site. I for one will argue when I care and won't argue when I don't care. It's all I can do, and better than nothing.

[up][up][up] The fact that people will go through all the trouble of making up an explicit description for that kind of thing.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:22:00 PM by encrypted12345

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TheManInBlack Since: Oct, 2009
#523: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:21:49 PM

Well, we are censoring porn and porn isn't "fucked up shit" or evil if it isn't pedo shit.

But it doesn't belong here. This is supposed to be a friendly family site, and while I doubt like hell that Debbie Does Dallas or Pirates XXX will turn anyone eighteen into a serial rapist or have a profoundly negative impact on them, I certainly respect their parents or guardians or peers concern in them being exposed to that type of explicit content. Hell if I was a parent, while I wouldn't throw a fit if I found a porn stash in my teenagers room, I would certainly sit him down for a talk and I would throw a fit if he wasn't even in his teens yet.

Tv Tropes isn't fucking Congress or the Supreme Court or a porn website. We don't have to worry about the First Amendment in our decision making.

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#524: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:22:13 PM

@Renga

No, Eddie's made it clear he's doing this because it bothers him on a moral level.

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setnakhte That's terrifying. from inside your closet Since: Nov, 2010
That's terrifying.
#525: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:22:22 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up]That was what started it, yes, but now it's more about image and reputation.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:22:41 PM by setnakhte

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