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emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Jun 2nd 2012 at 9:33:36 AM

But remember in Kickassia when Spoony fans complained he didn't get enough screentime? I know those people are particularly stupid, but it's a basic fanbase thing.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#52: Jun 2nd 2012 at 10:20:06 AM

I don't remember that, actually...wasn't he at least a whole 1/3 of the focus in that?

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Filby Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Jun 2nd 2012 at 10:38:42 AM

To be fair, Spoony's fans complain about everything.

emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Jun 2nd 2012 at 11:08:40 AM

[up][up] It was partly the reason why he told them the others were scared to work with him cos they got so much complaints from his site.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#55: Jun 2nd 2012 at 12:11:26 PM

I know that Spoony's fans are horrible little <REDACTED>, I just never heard that specific <REDACTED>storm.

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Mathias from Japan Since: May, 2009
#56: Jun 2nd 2012 at 6:53:21 PM

I tink that's a bit of creative history to be honest. While a few people were being asholes, by an a large peole were mostly critiquing the structure, plot and pacing of the "movie" and the implementation of the Insano storyline. Not so much demanding that there be much more Spoony. But since neither Spoony nor the rest of TGWTG seemed to to be able to take criticism they constructed the narrative that it was all meaningless and stupid complaints like "we want more spoony" by Spoony's fans who are well-known to be entitled assholes. Of course having read the spoony experiment forums every once in a while I really question this common perception as I haven't really seen it that much. Now the comment section on the other hand is really bad, but I don't really think you can call people who write there part of his "fans".

I do enjoy TGWTG videos and Spoony is one of my favourite contributors, but sometimes they just have surprisingly thin skin and seem unable to take criticism and I think it is unfair to paint all of the legitimate criticism that were given as being just "asshole entitiled spoony fans" as some seem to be doing now. Just my two cents.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#57: Jun 2nd 2012 at 7:11:10 PM

[up]Except, you know, those were comments on his site, and that's not a constructive criticism.

I've seen more than one TGWTG contributor refer to Kickassia as "a 90-minute Looney Tunes cartoon", so it's presumable that they're well aware of its structural problems.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Mathias from Japan Since: May, 2009
#58: Jun 2nd 2012 at 7:36:53 PM

I'm not saying that there weren't any stupid complaints at all, just not to the extent that it is made out to be. By far the majority of the criticism wasn't the simple stupid strawman that it was made out to be and afterwards it was flat-out forbidden to criticise kickassia at all on the Spoony forums, which admittedly was all Spoony, so that doesn't necessarily mean that other contributors were being as ridiculous.

Also it should be noted that it's much easier to criticise one's own things than it is taking in criticism from someone else. After all those other people don't know how hard you worked, what your circumstances were etc. It's kind of like how most people will criticise their country to hell and back when speaking with fellow countrymen, but will get really defensive once a foreigner starts criticising their country. In that case it's a little more understandable though, since foreigners most likely really do not know exactly what they are talking about. With a piece of media, it can be judged on it's own without ever needing to know anything but what you saw, though knowing background information will certainly enhance your criticism.

All I'm really judging is that one case, not necessarily all of TGWTG at all times. In that one case Spoony, Rob Walker and a few others did come of to me as making a tempest in a teacup and strawmanning most of the criticism of the movie.

edited 2nd Jun '12 7:43:18 PM by Mathias

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#59: Jun 2nd 2012 at 8:15:22 PM

Let's face it, all of the forums become tempests of hate after each special. This includes Doug's, Brad's, and Noah's.

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#60: Jun 2nd 2012 at 9:27:37 PM

I just generally avoid official forums of any kind. It never goes well...

So do we have a date for the special?

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PrinterThorn Since: Jul, 2011
#61: Jun 3rd 2012 at 7:01:46 AM

[up][up][up] You are aware that criticism works both ways, right? Just as fans are allowed to criticize something, the makers are allowed to defend it. For example, I don't care if my own written stories are worse than Twilight. I'll still defend them and still bash Twilight for as long as I live. grin

I'm also an anime blogger.
Kossmeister Burn It Down In The End from Gainesville, FL Since: Feb, 2012
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#62: Jun 3rd 2012 at 9:11:40 AM

[up]

No date is given, but a rough estimate is early to middle July. We'll probably see a trailer at the end of the month.

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supergod Walking the Earth from the big city Since: Jun, 2012
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#63: Jun 15th 2012 at 3:02:19 PM

So you think that the individual cast members will base themselves on specific characters again?

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emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#64: Jun 15th 2012 at 3:04:59 PM

Well that picture had Critic as Judge Dredd, but for various reasons (one being he's obviously going to be the main star again, so it wouldn't make sense for us to see only his mouth), I'd hope think that wouldn't last long.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#65: Jun 26th 2012 at 10:06:02 PM

A trailer.

And it now has a name. To Boldly Flee.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#66: Jun 26th 2012 at 10:10:57 PM

I gotta say, that's hyped me up pretty well.

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johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#67: Jun 26th 2012 at 10:21:42 PM

My favorite part is seeing newcomers in these specials. Go JO!

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snaver Since: May, 2010
#68: Jun 26th 2012 at 10:28:38 PM

This looks likes fun.

If you'll forgive the fangirlism: Film Brain looks like very sharp/nice in a black jacket.

DocStrange Sorcerer Supreme from Rhode Island Since: Jan, 2001
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#69: Jun 26th 2012 at 10:41:19 PM

...and WMGing on the TGTWG forums that the 4th year signals "the end of the site" will start in 5, 4, 3....tongue

Linkara mentioned in the comments of his latest video the events of the 4th year takes place before his current arc. I suspect he would have said otherwise if there were any gamechanging endgame plans after the 4th year

edited 26th Jun '12 10:41:57 PM by DocStrange

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emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#70: Jun 27th 2012 at 12:02:31 AM

-noms on the delicious ominousness- Consider me hyped. grin

Expandy thoughts: Obviously it's going to be as silly as ever, but I think this time the tone might be set more consistently. As much as I loved Suburban Knights, it went too quickly from farce to horror to oh fuck tears Ma-Ti still got Critic his coffee help me, and this appears to have a solid Nothing Is Scarier vibe.

But then I'm basing this on a running time of 1:41, so it's best to ignore me. tongue

edited 27th Jun '12 12:23:05 AM by emeriin

Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#71: Jun 27th 2012 at 6:01:52 AM

Tvtropes page! Someone! On it! Now!

eX 94. Grandmaster of Shark Since: Jan, 2001
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#72: Jun 27th 2012 at 6:05:53 AM

I was about to say the same thing. Do we have a name or something similar?

Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#73: Jun 27th 2012 at 6:06:57 AM

The page is called To Boldly Flee. It already has a YMMV and WMG section.

And for some reason, Wiki-typing the title doesn't take you anywhere yet.

edited 27th Jun '12 6:08:16 AM by Shota

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#74: Jun 27th 2012 at 8:22:00 AM

....and the editing war begins.

Why can't I ever edit anything on this site without someone deleting it and arguing with me???

edited 27th Jun '12 8:22:53 AM by kyun

emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#75: Jun 27th 2012 at 8:37:15 AM

I wasn't arguing with you. All I said was that everything in the Suburban Knights trailer was in the movie (even the lampshaded walk), so it's kind of off to guess based on that.


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