TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Batman General Discussion

Go To

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#10502: Jan 6th 2025 at 6:17:07 AM

It's my biggest complaint about Lego Batman.

The best part of that movie was L-Batman telling the Joker he's not special to him.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10503: Jan 6th 2025 at 6:25:11 AM

I've never really understood the Batman beats up poor people argument

He beats up Criminals and corrupt cops on occasion

This is an outrage against Luminara!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10504: Jan 6th 2025 at 6:41:31 AM

[up][up] One of my favorite burns Bruce has ever given Joker was in Tell Tale, where he has the option to insult Joker for thinking he's special to Bruce by calling him just another lowlife.

And the Joker's reaction is priceless. I love it when Bruce can be more savage than the Joker.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#10505: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:20:02 AM

I've never really understood the Batman beats up poor people argument

Tough on crime is a issue that zig zags for progressives work with two variants:

  • Criminals are victims of poverty, racism, and social injustice
  • Criminals primarily prey upon the poor

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#10506: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:23:06 AM

I think the funniest thing about the Barbara impregnation plotline is that it's widely associated with Timm but from what I remember it was another writer who wrote that plot.

So he got misblamed for it, presumably because Timm's involvement on the Bruce/Barbara romance in the Killing Joke.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#10507: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:23:21 AM

[up][up] true but to be fair, more modern batman's histories acknowledge this and show him using his money and influence to try to improve gotham through being a philanthropist while leaving the batman thing for just the worst criminals.

Edited by Kiobi20 on Jan 6th 2025 at 7:23:40 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10508: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:24:17 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I remember another troper spreading that misinformation as well as the fake news about Dick Grayson being the father of the Dee Dee twins.

It's that widespread.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jan 6th 2025 at 11:24:32 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10509: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:28:30 AM

[up][up][up]

But that wasn't Timm either

Timm was the Executive producer

Brian Azzarello was the one who wrote the adaptation... meaning the extra bits

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Jan 6th 2025 at 7:28:47 AM

This is an outrage against Luminara!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#10510: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:30:23 AM

For reminder Brian Azzarello is the one who infamohdlt introduced the "Amazon's are rapists" in his New 52 Wonder Woman run.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#10511: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:33:33 AM

I mean, I'm all for Dick being the father.

:)

Just more likely grandfather.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#10512: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:44:51 AM

The Diana runs off with Justice Lord Bats is still so awful to know about.

Talk about Diana catching strays for being involved with Bruce. Why the hell would she abandon her whole universe just to be with a Batman?

It's not even the same Batman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10513: Jan 6th 2025 at 7:47:38 AM

Cause they had to come up with some Reason Batman never hooked up with anyone since Timm loved to make Bats a harem protagonist

This is an outrage against Luminara!
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#10514: Jan 6th 2025 at 8:34:19 AM

Re: Joe Chill- the best twist regarding his meeting Bruce was in Batman Adventures.

Joe Chill read in the newspapers he'd killed important people and spent the rest of his life paranoid Bruce Wayne— not Batman— would find out and destroy him. He became so paranoic he began hallucinating Bruce Wayne hounding him everywhere. At one time he runs into Batman and accidentally unmasks him— seeing Bruce Wayne's face he thinks he's gone off the edge and jumps off a rooftop killing himself. Batman himself is puzzled why this random punk freaked out like that and never finds out who Chill was...

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#10515: Jan 6th 2025 at 9:12:51 AM

I still think "he isolated himself after Tim's ordeal" is a good enough explanation for why he ended up alone. Maybe Barbara stayed for a while, but he withdrew from the League to focus on Gotham, never let anyone else into his life, and once Barbara was gone, he had nobody else left to hook up with. If he'd even want to by that point.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10516: Jan 6th 2025 at 9:14:13 AM

Then again, there's the implication that Tim's torture happened sometime during the Justice League unlimited run, so there's that.

I heard there was an interview that indicated Batman Beyond is a possible future, not THE future of DCAU Batman.

But I can't find a source for that.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#10517: Jan 6th 2025 at 9:15:13 AM

Back in the day Alfred was so popular he got his own backup stories called "The Adventures of Alfred."

I kinda miss those.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#10518: Jan 6th 2025 at 9:19:23 AM

I believe Word of God is that the ROTJ flashback is the last thing to happen in the "present" of the DCAU.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#10519: Jan 6th 2025 at 1:52:53 PM

Didn't Diana get with justice Lord superman? As a peace treaty to stop them from attacking the dcau earth? And then had a clone kid together called zod that was raised by earth-50jax-ur

Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#10520: Jan 6th 2025 at 6:46:00 PM

Yes to all of that, except the treaty being to stop an invasion. The Lordsverse Earth had had a civil war between Supes and Bats, with each having their own Wondy and all other heroes fucking off in disgust. Eventually Lord Wondy murdered Batman, League Wondy killed her in retaliation (and her lasso crumbled afterwards), and to end the war she agreed to marry Lord Superman.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10521: Jan 7th 2025 at 5:41:03 AM

... you know i always had a sinking feeling the writers never did like DCAU WW...

This is an outrage against Luminara!
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#10522: Jan 7th 2025 at 7:38:31 AM

The writers of the comics had nothing to do with the writers of the DCAU.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#10523: Jan 7th 2025 at 8:15:33 AM

they seem to fucking hate DCAU WW

This is an outrage against Luminara!
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#10524: Jan 7th 2025 at 8:18:26 AM

Or worse, they just didn't care about her and Diana is just collateral damage for Bruce's sorry state at the start of Beyond.

Wake me up at your own risk.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#10525: Jan 7th 2025 at 8:30:48 AM

You know, there were ways to have Bruce be a loner at the start of BB without ruining Wonder Woman.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

Total posts: 11,552
Top