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edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

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So many orphans.
Jul 21st 2020 at 8:01:58 PM

[up]A sad, yet entirely predictable response.

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Jul 21st 2020 at 8:48:03 PM

[up][up] How many, all or just some?

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Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:13:35 AM

[up][up][up]M84.

Edited by Medinoc on Jul 22nd 2020 at 12:14:51 PM

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Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:30:26 AM

[up][up]The tweet says the vote was 58-53 in favor of termination.

Edited by ciyinwanderer on Jul 22nd 2020 at 6:30:42 AM

Jul 22nd 2020 at 7:43:23 AM

I think, even if LGBTQ is not mentioned in their religion, when religious figures (like priests) propagate prejudice for manipulating beleivers.

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Feb 4th 2021 at 8:52:50 AM
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Feb 4th 2021 at 8:54:21 AM

Can't say I agree with that assertion, and I am a self described Apatheist.

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Feb 4th 2021 at 8:55:15 AM

Bit of a question here about LGBT rights and Islam: What is the attitude of conservative-ish Islam (not hardcore/fundamentalist) regarding transgender individuals? I know that in Iran they exist only on sufferance.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany
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Feb 4th 2021 at 9:32:27 AM

I mean you probably have to specify from which Region.

Conservative Muslims in, say, Turkey will probably give a different answer than one from Germany.

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Feb 9th 2021 at 11:59:23 AM

[up][up] You're definitely going to get different answers from different people. In general, conservative Islam believes it is a sin to present as anything besides what you were assigned at birth. It's the application that differs. Most variations of conservative Islam (and Islam in general) are against forcing their beliefs on non-Muslims — you're unlikely to see groups of conservative Muslims in Western countries campaigning to make gender reassignment illegal. Policing behaviour within their own communities, however, is much more common. For this reason, it is quite common to see trans Muslims ostracized from conservative Muslim communities

(It goes without saying that many more liberal strains of the religion are fully supportive of trans people.)

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Feb 25th 2021 at 12:16:32 PM

An article where a pastor talks about being expelled from the Southern Baptist Convention for accepting gay people in his congregation.

He's very charitable and Christian towards the Convention. I'd rather see them kicked firmly in the ass.

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Feb 26th 2021 at 2:19:50 AM

[up] Given how heavily patriarchal their leadership is I'd rather aim for a slightly more ventral part of their anatomy.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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Mar 15th 2021 at 11:14:59 AM

I mean.

Was the opposite expected, even from Francis?

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Mar 15th 2021 at 12:23:08 PM

Yeah, if anything the characterisation of them as the same as non-marital heterosexual relationships (or marital relationships between previously divorced people or where the couple do not want children) might well be a step forward.

The statement does actually seem to leave some wriggle room. As it says

it is not licit to impart a blessing on relationships, or partnerships, even stable, that involve sexual activity outside of marriage (i.e., outside the indissoluble union of a man and a woman open in itself to the transmission of life), as is the case of the unions between persons of the same sex[6].

Which seems to leave no comment on if a same-sex-marrige that involved no sexual activity could be blessed.

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Mar 15th 2021 at 2:30:42 PM

Yeah, "the Pope says something Catholic" probably wouldn't have attracted as many eyeballs. The only flak it's gotten is from people who don't hold to Catholic doctrine in the FIRST place on the one hand, and from a few wingnut fringe Catholics who don't consider the Pope's language disobliging enough to gay people on the other.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
Mar 15th 2021 at 2:45:20 PM

If the Pope said something not Catholic, what would Scotsmen say to rhetorically point out a question asked was an obvious "yes"?

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Jhimmibhob from Where the tea is sweet, and the cornbread ain't Relationship Status: My own grandpa
Mar 15th 2021 at 3:00:18 PM

[up]No True Scotsman could let that stop him.

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