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ApplelightLimited Ahoy hoy! from In the skies above. Since: Oct, 2011
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#26: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:11:27 PM

Thanks Drenius.

See, I might keep him an EP...but he is a potions expert who has a special 'bat stallion' potion among other types.

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Turtlebutter Element of Misery from A Marshy Pond Since: Mar, 2012
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#27: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:12:21 PM

I think he means what Stat governs potion making, is it an int check or a wis check or whatnot

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Drenius Hey, do you know the way to Shell Beach? from Northern Virginia Since: Dec, 2011
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#28: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:13:42 PM

Oh, normally it'd be an int check for brewing potions.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:14:48 PM by Drenius

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#29: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:14:57 PM

I'd guess WIS, but I'm not sure. Could be INT.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:15:12 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#30: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:15:05 PM

Anyway, the one thing that bothers me is that everything is so low powered. Why should a Private Detective be only 15% better at noticing things that a completely average pony?

The way things are set up now, everyone will be basically the same apart from race. There isn't enough customization to make a meaningful difference.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:16:33 PM by storyyeller

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#31: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:15:56 PM

@Story: You talking about the 60/65 point build? We're considering bumping it up to 65/70.

Maybe we could have certain pony races get boosts for certain stats. E Ps get boosts in STR and CON, unicorns get boosts in INT and WIS, and pegasi get boosts in DEX and CHA.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:18:07 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#32: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:16:56 PM

That doesn't help unless the cap is also bumped up.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#33: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:18:41 PM

Which cap are you talking about? Isn't the current cap like 16?

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Drenius Hey, do you know the way to Shell Beach? from Northern Virginia Since: Dec, 2011
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#34: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:20:19 PM

Yeah, it is 16, but normally, the initial cap is 18. I agree that having each race getting some sort of bonus to certain stats.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:21:21 PM by Drenius

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#35: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:21:07 PM

Couldn't we just bump it up to 18, then?

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latenight Since: Aug, 2010
#36: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:21:51 PM

The 65 point is good. Base 60 points makes for a bit of a dim character if I want my character to be an effective tank.

Bull Work using base 65 points:

  • Str - 14
  • Con - 16
  • Dex - 11
  • Int - 9
  • Wis - 9
  • Cha - 6

Base 60 points:

  • Str - 14
  • Con - 16
  • Dex - 10
  • Int - 7
  • Wis - 7
  • Cha - 6

edited 5th Apr '12 6:22:11 PM by latenight

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#37: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:22:58 PM

I looked at the numbers, 65/70 looks like a good place to start for our stats :D

Question: Just how many more spell slots should Advanced Unicorn Magic give?

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Drenius Hey, do you know the way to Shell Beach? from Northern Virginia Since: Dec, 2011
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#38: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:23:59 PM

Well, Ace how many slots would a unicorn without Advanced Unicorn Magic have?

Maybe 2 more slots or three but at which level?

edited 5th Apr '12 6:24:52 PM by Drenius

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#39: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:27:39 PM

Well, as far as I see it Basic Magic gives a simple grasp of magic that allows Unicorns to cast essential cantrips (like Light), as well as maybe some Talent-associated spells (a slot or two or more Level One spells).

Advanced Magic should definitely give more slots/level, but should be no substitute for playing as a wizard or a caster class.

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#40: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:27:41 PM

I guess my new stats will be 9/12/9/18/12/10 then.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#41: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:28:30 PM

I'm still not sure what the deal with the cantrips is. Can somebody just give me a rundown on how magic and spell slots work?

edited 5th Apr '12 6:28:59 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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latenight Since: Aug, 2010
#42: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:29:44 PM

Increasing the starting stat max to 18 would be good.

@Ace A unicorn without advance magic would have 2. One for telekinesis and one for whatever is related to their cutie mark.

Turtlebutter Element of Misery from A Marshy Pond Since: Mar, 2012
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#43: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:32:25 PM

I would think that it would be fair for the racial stat cap to be raised a point or two. Like you can go 2 points above the stat cap for your racial bonus, all the others are capped at the norm.

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#44: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:32:47 PM

@Jteeth: Cantrips are basically parlor trick magic, or rather, extremely basic magic almost any magic user can harness. For Unicorns this also includes the Light spell.

Level X Magic slots mostly refer to the spells you can prepare between rests. For Wizard magic they get X spell slots, where they can prepare several spells they study on. Sorcs can only choose a handful of spells but they can cast those spells more often than wizards and need no preparation. In traditional D&D clerics get their magic by calling on their deity of choice for power, while Bards are effectively using Song Magic.

@Latenight: Telekinesis is covered as a racial skill, the cantrips Unicorns with Basic Magic start with includes Light. Basic is meant to give access to the racial spells, plus a Level One slot or two if they have a Cutie Mark (Talent).

edited 5th Apr '12 6:34:26 PM by AceOfScarabs

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#45: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:32:55 PM

So stats are capped at 16, but certain races have higher caps for certain stats? I could get behind that.

[up]Okay. How do you go about increasing the number of spell slots that are available? Do you just get them each level, or do they come as skills, or what?

edited 5th Apr '12 6:34:21 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#46: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:36:37 PM

@Jteeth: Caster classes get their usual spell allotments, the racial magic allows them to learn magic associated with their Talents (Cutie Mark), so this racial magic must be trained separately from any Class Magic they learn as a skill.

For Wizards like Twi, they get the usual allotment of Spell Slots, plus the spell slots reserved for their racial magic from these racial skills, for example.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:37:03 PM by AceOfScarabs

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Drenius Hey, do you know the way to Shell Beach? from Northern Virginia Since: Dec, 2011
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#47: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:36:50 PM

The number of slots you have usually increases every level or every other level in most D20 systems. I'm not sure we want to keep it the same or modify it.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:37:02 PM by Drenius

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wazkatango Element of Thought from Louisville, Kentucky Since: Jan, 2012
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#48: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:38:04 PM

EDIT: Nevermind, reading fail.

edited 5th Apr '12 6:50:51 PM by wazkatango

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#49: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:38:33 PM

@Drenius: I'm balancing it that unicorns get Racial Magic which they can train (pick up advanced/master skills in) for a few more slots, while caster classes get their usual spell allotments.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#50: Apr 5th 2012 at 6:38:48 PM

Okay, I'm still a bit hazy on it, but I think once I actually see the stuff being used I'll get it figured out.

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