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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#851: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:37:34 PM

@840 I'm just fearing that some great works may get the cut for having pedophilia elements in them without it being the focus of the work.

Hmm... maybe I'm getting too much into the slippery slope falacy here...

edited 11th Apr '12 4:38:16 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#852: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:37:36 PM

Why would this Lolita thingy be cut if it opposes pedophilia??? sadsadsad

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FringeBenefits Magical Girl Authority™ from in your basement (Veteran) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Magical Girl Authority™
#853: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:38:45 PM

And then there's the ever-nebulous definition of "pedophilia" itself. It's impossible to firmly draw the line: one person will think anything under 18 is illegal and immoral, and another will say the same about 16, and another about 14. That's not even getting into the problems with Really 700 Years Old and related tropes.

Is it really worth nuking entire pages of notable, well-written content just to satisfy the latest Paedo Hunt crusaders?

edited 11th Apr '12 4:40:15 PM by FringeBenefits

Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#854: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:39:37 PM

[up]hmmmmm sad

You make good points. smile

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#855: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:39:52 PM

Then you will never get another cent from me FE.

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Okay Guy
#856: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:40:03 PM

I don't like this either but we won't get anywhere by panicking.

Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova Scotian
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#857: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:40:43 PM

Yes, the slopes around here are getting very slippery. I wish people would try to be a little more rational about this. The world is not ending.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#858: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:41:16 PM

[up][up]Yeah, panicking won't really help. However, from what I've read I believe this is the last straw for Adsense's policies. If anything, we should continue ways to replace it with a donation incentive system.

edited 11th Apr '12 4:41:37 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#859: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:41:30 PM

^^ This is the internet. Rationality is a perverse deviation from the norm. tongue

edited 11th Apr '12 4:41:49 PM by Nohbody

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#860: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:41:32 PM

@854 This was Eddie's and Janitor's own decision, not an enforcement. He said it on the SWF-ness site.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#861: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:41:51 PM

[up][up][up][up]sad

[up][up][up]How is it the last straw though? surprised

edited 11th Apr '12 4:42:03 PM by Bookyangel2438

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#862: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:42:13 PM

@ Eddie: Yes, no question, no matter how notable a work is, our page for it should not condone pedophilia. But we should still have a page for it.

I wasn't here when everything started, so I don't know exactly how everything started except that it involved Buffy. But I know I was drawn to this site because the person linking me here explained that every single thing, ever, gets a page if someone cares enough.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
adopting kitteh
#863: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:42:18 PM

Just in case there is any chance for even more drastic retgone-ing of contents, I recommend tropers to save the histories and sources of any article that could be, potentially, and in any highly roundabout way, hit by this, to their hard disks.

Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?
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#864: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:42:47 PM

Lolita, really? We can't talk about Lolita? I mean I've never read the book and I don't know all that much about it, but Wikipedia says:

Lolita is included on Time's list of the 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to 2005. It is fourth on the Modern Library's 1998 list of the 100 Best Novels of the 20th century. It also made the World Library's list of one of The 100 Best Books of All Time.

lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
Tsundere pet.
#865: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:43:31 PM

@ 857: Well, Eddie just cut Black Bird, a bestselling-in-the-US teen girl's romance manga, on the grounds that the heroine is 16 and her Love Interest looks 20-something and there is one (extremely discreet) on-screen sex scene on their wedding night. So I think the slopes are slippery enough already.

edited 11th Apr '12 4:44:07 PM by lebrel

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FringeBenefits Magical Girl Authority™ from in your basement (Veteran) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Magical Girl Authority™
#866: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:43:53 PM

@863: How exactly would one do that?

Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#867: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:44:20 PM

[up][up]What's next for this whole cutting thing??? sad

edited 11th Apr '12 4:44:32 PM by Bookyangel2438

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#868: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:45:53 PM

[up][up][up] No, he cut it because even though it's not against the policy as he's writing it now, when it was brought up, people phrased it as if it was. As Eddie has never read it, he assumed said person knew what they were talking about.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
vigilantly taxonomish
#869: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:45:54 PM

Just so we are absolutely clear on this - is our policy now that it is OK to recommend to our readers - and indeed prudish to forbid the recommending of to our readers - pornographic Tangled and My Little Pony fanfiction, providing we're not "lewd" about it, of course, because Heaven forbid that we should be "lewd"... but not OK to host an article, on our Wiki concerning fiction, on one of the most widely respected, intelligently written and influential novels of the past century?

I strongly suspect that this is not what Google are after. It certainly isn't what I would like from TVT.

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#870: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:46:09 PM

We've learned that the people who want to write about certain subjects, mostly around fetishes and sexuality, are not self policing. They have non-standard standards.

I'm sorry folks, but if stuff that portrays pedophilia is important to you, this just isn't going to be the site for you.

Please lay off the pony questions, while we work on something important.

edited 11th Apr '12 4:46:53 PM by FastEddie

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#871: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:47:13 PM

[up][up]I heard that Lolita was super famous! surprised

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#872: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:48:20 PM

Notability is no excuse for pedophila content.

edited 11th Apr '12 4:48:28 PM by FastEddie

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
vigilantly taxonomish
#873: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:48:57 PM

Lolita isn't that important to me, I guess. It's just the principle of the thing.

Not only does this feel wrong, I am almost certain that this is not the solution to the Google problem. It's not the solution to anything.

^ Eddie, it is not a pro-paedophilia book.

edited 11th Apr '12 4:49:39 PM by BobbyG

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#874: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:48:59 PM

[up][up]That makes sense but wasn't it against pedophilia?? surprised

[up]I think that this solution is very...

um, I can't think of a good way to describe it in words. sad

edited 11th Apr '12 4:50:01 PM by Bookyangel2438

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#875: Apr 11th 2012 at 4:51:42 PM

Pro or con, it describes in great detail scenes that could titillate pedos. Cutting it sends a clear zero-tolerance message.

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