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Thank you, robster 2001. That's what I'm talking about. This pressing issue is, I believe, part of a general concern regarding the identity and direction of the wiki, as I've stated here
.
And I really think we should consider the potential of making use of wikimedia software, if not migrate to that system entirely. Some, like Mario Wiki
and Touhou Wiki
, have done very well gaining independence (from Wikia) and establish useful wiki site. The wiki software allows sleek and organized content while still being invaluable source of information to the respective fandoms.
edited 7th Apr '12 9:26:33 AM by abstractematics
Now using Trivialis handle.All systems are infinitely easier to use if you have been already using them.
Mediawiki and other wiki engines have the advantage of being public, shared, tested and in some cases audited code bases, but setting up to even start moving content in some of them can be a PITA. Migrating to Mediawiki, for example, might require an entire reengineering of the database backend.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?I think we've stated that pm wiki is an Artifact Title as far as the site is concerned. They've been so many changes, it's barely a pm wiki anymore.
I might be wrong on that though.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - FighteerI am not really a programmer, but I've heard that such a migration was considered in the past bur rejected because of the immense coding nightmare.
Also, this site's software has been modified so much over the years that moving the site to a different format without losing the functionality would be a huge undertaking.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanYeah, migrating the wiki is far more of a pain than cutting stuff or moving the forums.
Reaction Image RepositoryCatbert: After the last scare, we diversified our ad providers so that we were not totally at the mercy of Google. They now provide about a third of our revenue. The ads you are seeing are from the other providers. We are shopping for an additional ad provider to close the Google gap, should it be permanent. If we can replace them altogether, we certainly will.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyUh... The discussion of a possible wiki engine move is better suited for Tech Wishlist and others, I guess...
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?Yeah, most of the ads I got were full of insurance and other stuff that I am not interested in.
Not really. There was this trolling incident where someone payed five bucks, then asked for a refund, and then repeated. Nearly costed TV Tropes the paypal account.
edited 7th Apr '12 10:41:01 AM by Psyga315
Can't donations be designated nonrefundable? If you are donating you are giving away, not lending or something.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?I'm a little vague as to how anyone is supposed to tell the difference between "I click on it to support the website" and "I clicked on it because the ad attracted my interest".
Now, if we had a special efforts thread to organize clicking on ads, or a script to simulate clicking on websites, that would be an issue.
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Not without some "confirmation" page, methinks. What does happen if you accidentally donate something?
I'd rather not risk it.
edited 7th Apr '12 10:45:01 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman^^ Well, the fact that you just said you were planning on doing it, for one.
But also, they keep track of patterns in users' clicks. Every time you access a site running ads they get a bunch of feedback about your browsing preferences.
Seriously, don't commit click fraud. It is a criminal offence.
Welcome To TV Tropes | How To Write An Example | Text Formatting Rules | List Of Shows That Need Summary | TV Tropes Forum | Know The StaffRegarding ads: See, the money has to come from somewhere. If advertisers don't get money despite all the clicks, yet they still have to pay, they'll be less interested in advertising here. If you click on ads just because you expect them to pay for the site means you're expecting companies to throw away money.
edited 7th Apr '12 10:48:42 AM by ThatHuman
somethingIf the migration is a logistical nightmare, then how the hell did the Unofficial TV Tropes Mirror Wiki
manage to transplant so many articles to the Mediawiki system/format?
... Or did that site implode upon itself when I wasn't looking?
edited 7th Apr '12 10:51:49 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

We use more than one ad provider, the one that generates the most revenue is the one that went away. So, no change.
edited 7th Apr '12 9:23:53 AM by blackcat