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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52526: Jun 30th 2018 at 11:31:07 PM

Here's the thing, the whole best friend bit only came in Shippuden.

In the original series they were to my recollection never portrayed as that close.

Naruto's just wanted to help a comrade even an asshole one in danger not his best-est friend in the whole wide world.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 30th 2018 at 11:31:05 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#52527: Jun 30th 2018 at 11:35:26 PM

We can say that Shippuden shoehorned a lot of things in (and really, it did), but the Naruto-Sasuke "bromance" is an element that isn't terribly congruous (or congruous at all) with the first half or even within Shippuden itself. Compare this to, say, expanding upon Hinata's history with Naruto prior to their academy days.

As much as I'd like to stick around for more of Dandy's dandy misadventures, I should be calling it a night. I most likely won't have computer access this time next week, so I'll see you all the following week. smile

Edited by X2X on Jun 30th 2018 at 2:41:43 PM

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52529: Jun 30th 2018 at 11:39:24 PM

Indeed twas a good night yawl.

See ya next week for the finale of FLCL (hope it sticks the landing) & the continuation of Pop Team Epic on the block.

Well I hope I can watch it. I'm going to Mexico, Cancun I think with my family for vacation & I'm not sure if the hotel TV carries CN.

So just in case, see you all next week & if not next, next week. [tup] tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Making darkness adorable since 1999
#52530: Jun 30th 2018 at 11:58:57 PM

And on that note, it's time for me to finally call it a much-needed night. Have a good night, fellow Toonami fans. I'll see y'all next week! :)

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#52531: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:03:05 AM

Guess it's just me riding out this last hour, then.

And that's that! See some of you guys next week for Dragon Baseball.

Edited by Rojixus on Jul 1st 2018 at 2:58:09 PM

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#52532: Jul 1st 2018 at 7:25:07 AM

Basically, the thing about the final Naruto arc (starting at the Five Kage summit and continuing to the end of the series) is twofold. The one we're going through now is a result of the "lost arc" - basically, originally the plan was for there to be a mission arc in between the Land of Waves and the Chunin Exams which would have probably been an excellent way to flesh out the relationships between many of the characters (but was abandoned to speed up the road to the Chunin Exams).

That would have probably have strengthened the groundwork for the Naruto/Sasuke relationship and might have even given an opportunity for developing the Sasuke/Sakura stuff (I contend that had Sasuke visibly reciprocated before leaving the village Sakura wouldn't come off as such a... a Sakura, basically). Not having enough of that groundwork is, as can be easily seen, a serious problem down the line.

The other major problem, the one we're going to run into as the arc goes on, is that the threat is entirely exogenous to all the politics going on. Tobi declares war on basically the entire world, uniting them, instead of exploiting their divisions. This basically solves the vast majority of the world's real, serious problems in one stroke. War has basically been the start of darkness for every single villain in the series in one way or another, and the show misses the chance to address that.

Throw on top that having the threat be a giant pile of zombie kage and zetsu, and you double the amount of characters you have to introduce in the arc, which was already quite a big amount, compared to if it had been, say, the Sand and Leaf Villages vs. the other three in a war masterminded by Tobi to take advantage of the divisions between them.

I think if these two changes had been made you'd have solved a lot of the issues that really started to crop up in the war arc.

(speaking as a guy who's still a Naruto fan).

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Jul 1st 2018 at 2:27:13 PM

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#52533: Jul 1st 2018 at 11:02:50 AM

Please delete sister lover guy.

Good news, he's going to be a main character in the next arc. tongue

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#52534: Jul 1st 2018 at 11:21:33 AM

Wait Toonami made promos for MHA, FLCL Progressive, DB Super, AND Pop Team Epic? So they all of a sudden have all this time to do this?

Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52536: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:26:09 PM

[up][up][up][up] It’s a damn shame how the series turned out, a true damn shame. sad

[up][up] Guess they got the resources. tongue

[up] Again pedophile incest freak scored high in the polls meaning he’s popular sadly. Prepare yourself because you are gonna see a lot of nosebleeds, obsessing over his sister, & maybe a line where he outright says thinking about his little sister gives him a special feeling “down there”, ugggh indeed. X_X

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 1st 2018 at 12:27:18 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Making darkness adorable since 1999
#52537: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:34:49 PM

Are we going to get an episode where Vanessa gets her Day in the Limelight? I'd like to see that. :)

Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52538: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:41:03 PM

Lucky for you yes there is an arc where she takes center stage, Hell even saves the day completely in an admitably cool climax.

Unluckily though it’s a bit too far down the line that the current season might not reach it so expect to see it in season 2.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 1st 2018 at 12:41:22 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Making darkness adorable since 1999
#52539: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:45:44 PM
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52540: Jul 1st 2018 at 12:51:33 PM

Indeed though hopefully the animation & pacing improves by then.

Also keep in mind this next arc is seen as the series “Growing the Beard” moment so notice if there’s any actual improvements.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#52541: Jul 1st 2018 at 1:02:09 PM

Now I'm curious, what level of "Growing the Beard"? Like "It's actually good" level or "It's not complete shite" level?

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52542: Jul 1st 2018 at 1:13:46 PM

[up] The latter.

Like character development is still nonexistent or done so poorly you roll your eyes in irritation, characters are still one-dimensional as all Hell especially the annoying asshole nobles, & arcs are less arcs but excuse plots so to have constant nigh-unending 20 chapter fight scenes.

...... But it’s not as Godawful I think. It shoots its way up to low-tier decent/mediocre I guess.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 1st 2018 at 1:16:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#52543: Jul 1st 2018 at 4:44:37 PM

I've been watching Black Clover through Funimation's app so one thing I will say is we finally do get more Yami in the next arc and he's easily the best character so far. tongue

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#52544: Jul 6th 2018 at 3:49:32 PM

Diamond is Unbreakable just got announced at Anime Expo. It will be added to the block in August, replacing Stardust Crusaders.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#52545: Jul 6th 2018 at 3:58:17 PM

I heard it will be licensed here, but playing on the block is news to me!

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#52546: Jul 6th 2018 at 5:09:51 PM

Demarco is back, but for some reason the Pre-Flight episode running now this week is a rerun. He's with Gill live on Game Humpers instead, also on the Adult Swim streaming site/app.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#52547: Jul 7th 2018 at 2:12:26 PM

...Black Clover gives credence to that fake quote from Hayao Miyazaki

Do not obey in advance.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#52549: Jul 7th 2018 at 3:05:48 PM

True.

I just dread the upcoming arc. Of all the characters to put into focus, why the pedo imouto?

Do not obey in advance.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52550: Jul 7th 2018 at 3:08:31 PM

They seem aware of it too considering they stuck it at the back of the timeslot first chance they got.

I guess the only reason its on the block in the first place is because it was a gift from Funimation.

[up] Why put a pedo imouto on the protag's side in the first place? Ask the deranged author.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 7th 2018 at 3:11:00 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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