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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#38276: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:04:18 PM

Don't do it! The people!

Do not obey in advance.
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#38278: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:06:17 PM

So, um.

The hatch for Babadi's ship is currently set into the floor where they are at the tournament.

What would happen if someone was to fly back to Babadi's ship, and descend back to that same floor?

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Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#38279: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:06:57 PM

Is it really a Moral Event Horizon when he ends up joining up with the good guys again for realz afterwards? :P

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#38280: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:08:16 PM

To think, he was just a few feet from killing his wife...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#38281: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:08:59 PM

Apparently not. tongue

Never mind his Heroic Sacrifice later on (which actually sends him to Hell IIRC), it's not like Vegeta hasn't wiped out entire cities and planets before.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#38282: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:09:02 PM

I'm amazed that Vegeta had the patience to listen to Hercule that long. tongue

Sorry, Gohan, but that kinda is Vegeta.

Do not obey in advance.
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#38283: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:09:31 PM

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No.

This is an awful act, but committed in a universe where these deaths can be undone.

Not that it isn't evil, or that his evil is completely redeemed later.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:09:53 PM by Enlong

I have a message from another time...
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#38284: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:11:14 PM

Vegeta's speeches are considerably less verbose compared to the original dub.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#38285: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:11:21 PM

I don't know what Vegeta's talking about, Goku has never beaten him. The last time they fought, Vegeta left Goku a broken wreck.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#38286: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:13:20 PM

Vegeta fought Goku. Goku survived, Vegeta retreated.

To Vegeta, that's loss enough.

He doesn't care that interference happened; he should've been able to crush all of them, is what he's probably thinking.


Right now, Goku is closer to killing Beerus than he will ever come again.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:13:47 PM by Enlong

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mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#38287: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:14:13 PM

[up][up] Defeat by proxy. He defeated Freeza when Vegeta wasn't even able to hurt him. But you're right: his rivalry logically should be with Gohan.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:14:45 PM by mythbuster

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38288: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:14:21 PM

Goku is a low class saiyan, Vegeta is the prince of all saiyans. Yet the former has consistently surpassed him and outdone him overall.

He's just a little miffed about that.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38289: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:14:26 PM

The fact he was heavily injured then beaten by his human friend & half-breed son made it worse.

Kai shouldn't have tried to stop the fight. What else was Goku supposed to do, let Veggie keep killing people?

edited 17th Jun '17 9:14:43 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#38290: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:14:52 PM

@ Rojixus: Maybe not in terms of pure fighting prowess in their only prior fight, but Goku's Spirit Bomb was what did in Vegeta, plus Vegeta resorted to the Great Ape transformation beforehand because a lowlife managed to overpower him, the prince of all Saiyans, with the Kaio-ken. And to add insult to injury, Goku had the gall to let Krillin spare Vegeta's life. Even in defeat, Goku still "won," if that makes sense. It's an ego and Saiyan pride thing.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#38291: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:16:42 PM

Kai shouldn't have tried to stop the fight. What else was Goku supposed to do, let Veggie keep killing people?

Maybe. The dragonballs can reverse the damage Vegeta can do, unless said damage includes unsealing Buu. If we can trade temporary deaths for keeping Buu from escaping into the wider universe, it might be worth it.

Much later in this arc, Piccolo will try to make the same trade.

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mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#38292: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:17:35 PM

[up][up][up] As far as Supreme Kai was concerned, yes. He was convinced that any sacrifice would be better than letting Buu reawaken. And he was pretty much right. If Elder Moori hadn't upgraded the Namekian dragonballs (and they had no idea that he did) the casualties would have been catastrophic.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:19:08 PM by mythbuster

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#38293: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:18:06 PM

Original speech:

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#38294: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:18:32 PM

Tom just referenced "rocking the dragon". Cute. grin

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#38295: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:21:42 PM

[up][up] Who did it better :V

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#38296: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:22:33 PM

"Hell no."

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38297: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:23:31 PM

Huh ok now I remember exactly what he said in the original Dub.

I prefer the first in this case. The his pride line sounded cooler.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:23:56 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#38298: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:23:41 PM

How's your mind control working now, bitch?

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Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#38299: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:23:49 PM

In my opinion the original mind control refusal speech was better too. tongue

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#38300: Jun 17th 2017 at 9:25:22 PM

I know nostalgia's not all it's cracked up to be, but I think we can all agree that a lot of lines had better delivery/felt more powerful in the original dub.

"And this time, you're going to dieeeeeeeeeeh!"

Vegeta, he's already dead. Literally.

edited 17th Jun '17 9:25:53 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar

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