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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#37876: May 20th 2017 at 10:32:02 PM

Yup there's a thing called nuance.

Making characters that follow either extremes to an unrealistically cartoonish degree kinda wrecks the message your going for.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37877: May 20th 2017 at 10:32:03 PM

My objections to trying to make this a simple moral conflict aside, I totally get why this would not be someone's cup of tea. There's been mention of this being a terrible adaptation, but even without that, this really strikes me as the kind of thing you're either all in for or aren't.

[up]But also that, when you make the first Ghouls we see cartoonishly evil, and then bring in the likes of Mado...

edited 20th May '17 10:34:24 PM by LSBK

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#37878: May 20th 2017 at 10:32:36 PM

Yeah, I feel as though they could have used another character a bit more......gray in a sense?

This guy was basically some generic villain dude who falls flat on his face even with the heartwrenching backstory

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#37879: May 20th 2017 at 10:32:55 PM

Future events make a lot of this a bit more complicated.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#37880: May 20th 2017 at 10:33:06 PM

Yeah, I usually feel for Ax-Crazy killers, but Mado was just a bastard that went too far. I personally draw the line at killing a young child's mother and then bragging about it to their faces.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#37881: May 20th 2017 at 10:33:44 PM

[up][up][up] Indeed.

[up][up][up][up] Sad thing is it does get better but the anime completely fucks it with an off the rails second season that is shit in quality.

edited 20th May '17 10:34:13 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#37882: May 20th 2017 at 10:34:11 PM

And speaking of Even Evil Has Loved Ones, the Spiders. They can all die in a ditch. Even if Machi and Shizuka are cuties.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
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#37883: May 20th 2017 at 10:34:21 PM

I think the way that this guy could be seen as a hero and be mourned by his colleagues is a good way for the series to show how total th divide between the two species is. His human colleagues don't see his sadistic work as bad, because he's doing it to Ghouls.

edited 20th May '17 10:34:55 PM by Enlong

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#37884: May 20th 2017 at 10:35:18 PM

And now for another bunch of bastards who shouldn't really garner any sympathy whatsoever. (I still find Shizuku cute though.)

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#37885: May 20th 2017 at 10:35:42 PM

[up][up] As the saying goes, there are two sides to every coin.

[up] Copycat. tongue

[down][down] Chrollo and Feitan don't exactly strike me as paragons of sanity. [lol]

edited 20th May '17 10:37:27 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37886: May 20th 2017 at 10:36:00 PM

Ghouls are supposed to be detained and killed humanely if possible, but, well, most people tend to ignore that. Keep that in mind.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#37887: May 20th 2017 at 10:36:15 PM

At least the Spiders are pretty cool & not overly insane mofos.

[up] They prolly shouldn't use children orphaned by Ghouls to restock their supply of investigators. tongue

edited 20th May '17 10:37:06 PM by slimcoder

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#37888: May 20th 2017 at 10:36:58 PM

Still, though, not killing and mentally torturing children seems to be a pretty universal moral. I think if his colleagues could see that final scene where he's taunting Hinami, they'd recognize him as a scumbag. Children are children.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
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#37889: May 20th 2017 at 10:37:11 PM

"Forever set, etc etc"

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#37890: May 20th 2017 at 10:38:05 PM

[up][up] You'd be surprised.

There's a lot of pyschos working as Doves.

edited 20th May '17 10:38:27 PM by slimcoder

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#37891: May 20th 2017 at 10:38:19 PM

...This music kind of reminds me of Kenji Kawai's music for the first Ghost in the Shell anime film.

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#37892: May 20th 2017 at 10:39:29 PM

@ Lennik: Yeah, I think everyone here agrees with you on that. It's just that we've only seen Mado in one setting as opposed to a more multifaceted depiction, which is why the humanizing aspect of that final flashback falls short.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
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#37893: May 20th 2017 at 10:41:59 PM

Crazy eyes!

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#37894: May 20th 2017 at 10:43:06 PM

The adventures of Gon, Killua, and Better Sasuke continue.

edited 20th May '17 10:43:15 PM by Enlong

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#37895: May 20th 2017 at 10:43:06 PM

Ya gotta love that guitar riff that played when Kurapika clenched his hand.

Really epic. smile

[up] Heh Better Sasuke, nice. [tup]

edited 20th May '17 10:43:29 PM by slimcoder

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You'll never see it coming...
#37896: May 20th 2017 at 10:44:36 PM

Better Sasuke

Trademark that. [lol]

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
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#37898: May 20th 2017 at 10:49:12 PM

I wonder how Killua would take it if he knew his Grandpappy and Dear Old Da' were in town too.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37899: May 20th 2017 at 10:52:31 PM

Pfft!

Using poison on a Zoldyck? Haha

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You'll never see it coming...
#37900: May 20th 2017 at 10:53:45 PM

This should be a very satisfying fight, though I know Chrollo's going to somehow survive this.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar

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