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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#37326: May 6th 2017 at 8:52:09 PM

Goku's like an addict...

Do not obey in advance.
MrMaestro Absent-Minded Professor from Kingdom Come Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#37327: May 6th 2017 at 8:52:46 PM

One could probably make the case that Goku is a legitimately interesting character study in what happens when a shonen protagonist grows up without actually maturing.

Someone's probably had that thought already, but it just dawned on me.

I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#37328: May 6th 2017 at 8:53:19 PM

Chi-Chi is fucking mental.

Bitch be fucking mood-swinging here.

Not sure she understand you that much bro.

edited 6th May '17 8:53:40 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#37329: May 6th 2017 at 8:53:23 PM

Whoa, what? Chi-Chi just pulled a 180 and is suddenly ok with it?

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HOT DOG
#37330: May 6th 2017 at 8:53:38 PM

She's angry one moment, but when takes it surprisingly well.

Gotta commend how faithful she is to him.

When you wish upon a side of beef, soon will come an end to all your grief
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#37331: May 6th 2017 at 8:53:44 PM

Good Chichi, suppress those frustrations.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#37332: May 6th 2017 at 8:54:05 PM

Oh that's dumb, that's lazy writing.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37333: May 6th 2017 at 8:54:11 PM

It's less that Goku never matured, and more that Super is making him regress.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#37334: May 6th 2017 at 8:54:36 PM

Amazing. This episode made me solidly side with Chichi despite her being in MAXIMUM FORBIDDING MOM MODE. Not often that happens.

I have a message from another time...
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#37335: May 6th 2017 at 8:55:29 PM

These old bumpers make me sad.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#37336: May 6th 2017 at 8:55:31 PM

I wouldn't say your moms amazing Gohan. sad

Honestly I would willingly hang out with most of the cast here, even Cell or Majin Buu but if I met Chi-Chi in real life I would not stand her. I would at least tolerate her existence just to hang with Goku who is the only reason why anyone would even associate with Chi-Chi.

[up][up][up] Yeah he's very different in Kai. The act both shows are aired back to back makes things even more jarring.

edited 6th May '17 8:56:31 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#37337: May 6th 2017 at 8:56:08 PM

I have to keep reminding myself that Super is a comedy series and Z isn't. Super makes Goku funny, to its credit, but his Z incarnation is an overall much better man.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
asiacatdogblue This Won't End Well... from Chicago, IL Since: Feb, 2010
This Won't End Well...
#37338: May 6th 2017 at 8:56:29 PM

You can't be a hero if you don't fight a villain.

Yep, I'm still here.
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#37339: May 6th 2017 at 8:57:28 PM

Couldn't Goku just train during the day and instant transmission home at night?

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#37340: May 6th 2017 at 8:57:50 PM

Chi-Chi is a major Control Freak. I don't understand why she's so desperate to have her family be a bunch of normies because A) they're half or quarter alien, and B) the DB world is not

normal

Do not obey in advance.
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#37341: May 6th 2017 at 8:58:02 PM

On one hand, Chi-Chi is absolutely right that Goku needs to be more responsible when it comes to his family (which, in his defense, he was showing signs of up until the whole Beerus incident), but on the other hand, Goku is pretty much the earth's best shot at survival whenever the newest villain comes knocking. Can't spend time with your family if the planet is reduced to space dust, after all.

I'm guessing Chi-Chi being all "Oh well lol" when Goku just straight-up leaves is implicitly her giving in to the obvious truth of the latter?

edited 6th May '17 8:59:20 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#37342: May 6th 2017 at 8:58:15 PM

Ah, Prince Lotor. Mastering the White Hair, Black Heart aesthetic before Sephiroth made it look cool.

asiacatdogblue This Won't End Well... from Chicago, IL Since: Feb, 2010
This Won't End Well...
#37343: May 6th 2017 at 8:58:28 PM

Akira Toriyama nerfed the Dragon World.

Now, it's lame.

Yep, I'm still here.
GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HOT DOG
#37344: May 6th 2017 at 8:59:20 PM

I'm still wondering what the hell happened to all those animal humanoids that co-existed with the humans.

When you wish upon a side of beef, soon will come an end to all your grief
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#37345: May 6th 2017 at 8:59:31 PM

Its just balance, she makes some good points but she's so bitchy I wouldn't blame Goku if he decided to straight up divorce her.

She is a hard to tolerate person & quite frankly Goku is a saint for being married to her for so long.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#37346: May 6th 2017 at 9:01:29 PM

I'm gonna be honest: I've never actually seen this saga before, but I know the broad strokes of the story. I've never heard of this guy, which leads me to believe he isn't going to accomplish much.

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#37347: May 6th 2017 at 9:01:53 PM

I'm more willing to blame Toriyama for clearly not liking women very much. Every female character is either a shrew or suffers from Badass Decay brought on by domestication.

edited 6th May '17 9:02:30 PM by Lennik

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#37348: May 6th 2017 at 9:03:07 PM

This punk alien that they're fighting first? I don't think I even knew his name until I saw it in the credits.

Do not obey in advance.
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#37349: May 6th 2017 at 9:03:49 PM

@ slim: Well, Goku genuinely loves her (as we'll see in a later arc) and is so easygoing most of the time that he seems to be content with letting her take control, but when it comes to martial arts and training, he just flips on a switch and basically gives zero fucks when it comes to Chi-Chi's nagging. Really, the relationship of the full-blooded Saiyans and their human wives makes for good essay material.

@ shigmiya: [tup]

edited 6th May '17 9:04:55 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37350: May 6th 2017 at 9:04:37 PM

Toriyama has criticized himself for only being able to write one type of woman, and he apparently made Goku and Chichi get married in order to force himself to keep her in the story because he disliked the personality he gave her. Though, that might just be a rumor, there are a lot of them.


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