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AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mecha and Waifu, become one!
#36476: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:33:02 PM

[up]Yes. Although I kinda wish Mika had more personality, but he has at least some hidden depts Although Banana isn't as bad as Kira is when it comes down to the wire

Man, I know it will never happen, but I would love to see Gundam Build Fighters on Toonami, its probably my favorite gundam series, not counting the mess that was Try.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:34:30 PM by AlphaVII

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Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36477: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:34:17 PM

I also really miss Iron Blooded Orphans. Mika and Orga and Kudelia are so much cooler as protagonists.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36478: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:35:10 PM

[up][up] Oh yeah true Mika needs more character but at least he isn't overbearing like Banagher.

He's the exact opposite really.

[up] I would love to see Banagher pull this shit with Mika & then get an iron mace to the cockpit in return.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:36:02 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36479: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:40:26 PM

@X 2 X Well then watch that last little bit of Unicorn, it's a doozy!

@slimcoder Gundam protagonists tend tend to have one of three personalities:

  • The "Pacifism at any cost" types like Kira Yamato and Banagher.
  • The Child Soldier types like Mikazuki Augus, Setsuna F. Seiei, and Hero Yui.
  • The Rogue types like Garod Ran and Judau Ashita.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:41:08 PM by Rojixus

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#36480: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:41:57 PM

I can see Bana's perspective; kid got chucked right into the deep end without time to cope with anything that's been happening. But he turns the platitude dial up to 11 pretty frequently he.

I have a message from another time...
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#36481: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:43:19 PM

@ Alpha: That would be pretty cool, though the fact that the rights haven't been picked up now for a dub makes me wary.

@ Lennik & slim: They also exist in a much darker timeline and have been accordingly shaped by those experiences. Banagher is a civilian who was thrust into the cockpit of a Gundam he really didn't want anything to do with whereas Orga and Mika have been fighting to survive from Day 1, and Kudelia, like Mineva, is trapped in a political tango.

Don't get me wrong; Banagher's no favorite of mine, but I feel like everyone who criticizes him for not always having his finger on the trigger happens to conveniently throw out the fact that he's a lot like 0079!Amuro... who was also on the whiny and indecisive side (though he did more willingly take the RX-78-2 out for a spin to protect his colony).

Yes, it can be frustrating at times, but, IMO, it's good to have variance in Gundam shows and their protagonists, otherwise we'd end up with everything being like 0080, Zeta, Victory Gundam, and AGEwhich I can't foresee ending well.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:47:08 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36482: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:44:24 PM

[up][up][up] The rogue types are the more neutral ones like they'll fight but they prefer not too right?

Like I understand that Banagher doesn't like fighting & that he's a civilian so he shouldn't be there but he talks so much about this shit he sounds like a broken record. Literally every word out of his mouth is related to Audrey or some variation of stop fighting.

His voice doesn't help, it just sounds annoying to me, the tone or something.

[up] I mean at least Amuro knows when to stop talking & fight when needed.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:46:49 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36483: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:48:54 PM

@slimcoder: Pretty much. The rogue types are more neutral than the others. They usually start off as complete outsiders from society at large who initially fight for their own personal reasons, but throughout the course of the show, end up fighting for their friends. They still don't get too invested in ideology though.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#36484: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:54:38 PM

"Your stomach's bigger than Choji's!"

Good thing he's not within earshot. tongue

Do not obey in advance.
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36485: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:55:41 PM

It feels like Asuma died years ago.

EDIT: What am I talking about? He did die years ago.

edited 8th Apr '17 11:56:35 PM by Rojixus

X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#36486: Apr 8th 2017 at 11:57:26 PM

@ slim: True, but you basically just outlined Banagher's whole deal. Put yourself in his shoes: if you were a teenager who didn't firsthand experience war but was willing to call out both Zeon and the Federation on their crap and were a Newtype on top of that (meaning you have some aspects of The Empath), how much resolve would you have to willingly fight all the time without getting some kind of motivation from an outside party or factor? The fact that Banagher even fights at all whenever Mineva isn't involved seems a little bit incongruent with who he is as a person, honestly.

@ Rojixus: Judau Ashta, too cool for school, but not quite Zeta Punch cool. Also got reverse-Char'd by Haman, which was... something.

@ Beary: I'm surprised Choji wasn't around to flip out at Naruto. tongue

Poor Kurenai. Beyond the fact that her lover died in battle, she got shafted too in terms of battle prowess. sad Wasn't her only battle against Itachi?

edited 9th Apr '17 12:01:35 AM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36487: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:00:04 AM

[up] You got a point there.

Still can he be quit for a minute at least?

Also about Kurenai yeah I think it was her only battle.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:00:42 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#36488: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:02:54 AM

And to make myself clear, I don't mind that you're criticizing Banagher (the preachiness wears a bit thin for me, too); it's just that it feels like you're criticizing him a bit, I dunno, unfairly? (shrugs)

Still, if you dislike this kid, I'm sure you'd hate Quatre (my dad derisively nicknamed him "Total Pacifism" back during the old Toonami days) and Kira. [lol]

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36489: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:05:51 AM

[up]I certainly do!

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36490: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:06:20 AM

Huh I guess I just dislike him. There's nothing I like about him honestly so that's why I criticize him so much I guess.

Funny thing, I like Kira but mostly cause the Strike Freedom was my favorite Gundam to play as in Dynasty Warriors. tongue

I haven't seen Seed in years so I no longer have an opinion of him.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:07:07 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#36491: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:16:36 AM

@ Rojixus: [lol]

@ slim: Can't fault you for that. Sometimes awesome MS are saddled with meh (or worse) pilots. tongue At worst, at the end of the day, we'd just have to agree to disagree on whatever.

SEED was decent from what I remember. I've never watched SEED Destiny, but the common fandom consensus is that it's a mess IIRC. You might be better off avoiding it unless you're really curious.

On that note, I'd best be off. Have to wake up early in the morning, which I'm not looking forward to.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36492: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:28:36 AM

Well, that's all she wrote this week, folks. Later!

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#36493: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:04:02 AM

Ugh, I passed out last night for the entire duration of Unicorn. Which I was staying up later than usual for. Stupid schedule changes, good thing I can record it.

Gotta say, it was really, really nice to see Eureka Seven back on the block.

edited 9th Apr '17 8:04:13 AM by TheAirman

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Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36494: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:01:49 PM

[up]Please don't compare Eureka Seven to Unicorn. Unlike Unicorn, Eureka Seven actually had depth instead of just razzle-dazzle.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#36495: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:19:00 PM

[up]...he wasn't? I have no idea where you got that from.

Also apparently Eureka Seven is infinitely harder to get into, so it has that going against it.

edited 9th Apr '17 4:20:05 PM by PhysicalStamina

i'm tired, my friend
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36496: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:22:35 PM

Yeah Eureka Seven is much j Harder to get into cause most of the cast are at the start are major assholes.

Besides he was clearly making a joke on how Banagher saved Audery during terminal velocity. At least thats what I'm assuming.

edited 9th Apr '17 4:32:01 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#36497: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:25:47 PM

"Clear" for people who have watched Eureka Seven, I guess.

edited 9th Apr '17 4:25:55 PM by PhysicalStamina

i'm tired, my friend
Rojixus The Last Nineties Anti-Hero from A Dark and Rainy Cyberpunk City (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Last Nineties Anti-Hero
#36498: Apr 9th 2017 at 5:05:00 PM

[up][up]That's what I thought, unless Eureka Seven spontaneously started showing after I went to bed.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#36499: Apr 9th 2017 at 5:12:58 PM

It was a joke about giant robots on air-surfboards, but Banana saving Audrey works as well, yes. Not that it holds a candle to E7's midair saves. Or even Hikaru saving Minmei for that matter.

E7 is among my favorite anime ever, rest assured I would never seriously compare it to Unicorn's drivel.

edited 9th Apr '17 5:24:41 PM by TheAirman

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#36500: Apr 9th 2017 at 5:23:18 PM

Oh shit dude that makes much more sense.

Nice.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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