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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24927: Sep 11th 2015 at 9:14:51 AM

I would have at least liked for Goku to try and patch things up with Raditz, considering all the chances he was willing to give Frieza. Hell, do something that lets him meet his parents or something; I'm sure they'd be surprised to learn they're grandparents.

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#24928: Sep 11th 2015 at 9:44:58 AM

And then he could be relentlessly mocked for being the Saiyan Yamcha.

  • RADITZ: I've unlocked Super Saiyan 3!
  • VEGETA: Yeah, but with your power, that barely makes you a match for Frieza's first form.
  • RADITZ: My zenkai has placed me beyond Frieza!
  • VEGETA: We just beat Buu. Get with the program, man.
  • RADITZ: I have become a Super Saiyan God!
  • VEGETA: Ugh, red is So Last Season. We're into blue now.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24929: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:07:31 AM

Super Saiyan should absolutely have a minimum power level requirement. The only places it doesn't, so far as I know, is shit like Episode of Bardock.

DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
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#24930: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:07:36 AM

[up][up][up] Goku tried to give Raditz a chance too. It's a pity he didn't have the power to really allow him to have more leeway without endangering the world at the time.

[up][up] Unless... Raditz turned into Goku's always-one-step-ahead big brother figure evil grin.

"Kakarot... I had no idea my brother was so strong. I guess I'll have to stop fooling around myself!"

Raditz trains for four weeks, achieves Super Saiyan through the power of sibling rivalry and pwns Captain Ginyu when he first shows himself.

[up] How strong would you say kid Goten and Trunks were when they first transformed?

edited 11th Sep '15 10:09:42 AM by DoctorDiabolical

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24931: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:12:07 AM

They had a power level of 500 billion a piece in base.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24932: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:14:19 AM

Well given they achieved SSJ 1 before the Buu Saga even began it's impossible to say. Both of them had absurdly high base power levels though given that they were around Eighteen.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24933: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:14:39 AM

I don't think it should have a prequisite,I mean,you're getting a 50x boost out of nowhere anyway. tongue

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24934: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:15:53 AM

I think Gokus 3 million in base form works as a pre-requisite.

edited 11th Sep '15 10:16:03 AM by VeryMelon

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24935: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:51:48 AM

I just realized, DBH is technically the first game where the Nameless Namekian is playable, he's just referred to as Kami. (The actual Kami can be used through the Good/Evil Split transformation, which removes the evil King Piccolo side)

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24936: Sep 11th 2015 at 10:54:11 AM

Was the NN as strong as Super Namekian Piccolo?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24937: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:02:05 AM

Well, Super Namekian Piccolo has Nail in him, so I wouldn't say that powerful.

If I remember correctly, Guru said NN would have been on par with Frieza, though I'm not sure which form of Frieza he was referring to.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#24938: Sep 11th 2015 at 11:06:44 AM

He did not? He said something about creating the dragon balls in an attempt to fill a longing in his heart or something like that.

Kami: Mr. Popo, I'm lonely.

Popo: Well, why not create an omnipotent, Eastern-style dragon avatar that can only be summoned by bringing seven magical artifacts together?

Kami: That's a wonderful idea Mr. Popo!

-creates Shenron-

Kami: Ah... I feel complete.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24939: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:54:59 PM

Twist: The longing was because he does not have a penis, so he created a penis-like dragon to fill the void.

Anyway...

I bet the Nameless Namekian could've taken 100% Freeza. After all, he was on par with 17, who was significantly stronger than Freeza, and Nail only brought him up to like 1.000.000.

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#24940: Sep 11th 2015 at 2:56:44 PM

That million is a few orders of magnitude ahead of either God or Piccolo Daimao, though. Either the Nameless Namekian's power dropped to a sliver of a percent so small it can barely be conceived when he split or Nail's contribution to Cell Saga Piccolo's power shouldn't be understated and neither should the three years of training he underwent.

Piccolo was already very powerful before he reunited with God. It does him a great disservice to assume that fighting 17 was all on the reunion.

edited 11th Sep '15 2:59:23 PM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24941: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:05:55 PM

In all seriousness, though Kami was looking for a way to connect to his Namekian roots even if he had long forgotten about them.

He may not have known about his Namekianess but he knew creating the dragon balls was a way of getting in touch with it.

edited 11th Sep '15 3:08:14 PM by LSBK

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24942: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:08:51 PM

Speaking of Dragon Balls,is their size relative to the creator's power level?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24943: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:13:48 PM

I doubt it. Kami was actually better at it than Guru.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24945: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:15:54 PM

Each set had it's own strengths. Which was better depended more on the circumstances than anything else.

Edit: Though really, if you didn't have to bring back more than one person, Guru's were probably better overall.

edited 11th Sep '15 3:16:38 PM by LSBK

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#24946: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:16:12 PM

  • God's balls can perform mass revivals.
  • Guru's balls grant three wishes instead of one.
  • Dende's balls are like God's balls except they grant two wishes.
  • Moori's balls have all the advantages of Guru's balls and God's balls with no drawbacks.

Moori is clearly the superior Namekian and we should all praise his balls.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24947: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:17:17 PM

Let me rephrase that. Kami was stated to be better at it than Guru by Guru.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24948: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:18:37 PM

Moori?Is he from Online or something?

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#24949: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:20:28 PM

Moori is the Namekian that took over New Namek after Guru died. He shows us his balls during the Buu Saga, whereupon they're used to restore the planet Earth, resurrect everyone who died, and restore Goku's energy so he can finish Majin Buu. Mr. Satan's ego and Moori's balls saved the universe.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#24950: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:20:30 PM

Moori is the guy who takes over after Guru dies, it happens in canon.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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